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  6. # [00:44] <gsnedders> jgraham: Can you write a "Why use Critic and not GitHub" page on the Critic wiki or something?
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  10. # [01:33] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] kriskrueger created heycam from master (+0 new commits): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commits/heycam
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  24. # [09:46] <jgraham> gsnedders: Sure, but do you really mean Critic wiki? Assuming not, where do you mean? Web-platform-tests wiki?
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  26. # [09:54] <MikeSmith> jgraham: I think one thing that's not intuitive about Critic is that if I go to e.g., https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/9301d135?review=351 to do a review then initially I see absolutely nothing useful to actually do the review
  27. # [09:54] <MikeSmith> I have to type e or s to get anything
  28. # [09:55] <MikeSmith> or click on a filename
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  32. # [10:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #380: Added tests for some event dispatching edge cases. (master...event-edge-cases) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/380
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  36. # [10:18] <jgraham> MikeSmith: OK, I will try to make a short tutorial with screenshots. I plan to talk about this at TPAC as well ("how to review tests" or something)
  37. # [10:21] <MikeSmith> jgraham: great
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  40. # [10:37] <zcorpan> critic would benefit from an interactive tutorial mode that, instead of a wall of text, it had text baloons saying what to do next
  41. # [10:38] <zcorpan> and maybe more discoverable UI
  42. # [10:45] <Ms2ger> r? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/369 :)
  43. # [10:48] <zcorpan> i also want w3c-test.org links in critic
  44. # [10:49] <zcorpan> (and a pony)
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  49. # [11:01] <Ms2ger> And reviewers
  50. # [11:02] <Ms2ger> And test writers
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  52. # [11:15] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: is there a bug filed about blink failing the "Event listeners added during dispatch should be called" test? what's going on there?
  53. # [11:15] <zcorpan> blink decides which listeners to invoke before dispatching?
  54. # [11:16] <Ms2ger> No idea
  55. # [11:16] <Ms2ger> I haven't tested in blink
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  58. # [11:37] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger closed pull request #380: Added tests for some event dispatching edge cases. (master...event-edge-cases) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/380
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  63. # [12:08] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/google-old-tests: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/51bd077a387a5c826f689d4adab672f44462596f
  64. # [12:08] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-old-tests 51bd077 Denis Ah-Kang: Fix issues listed at https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/354
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  66. # [12:16] <gsnedders> jgraham: I've had a fair few people ask about html5lib too
  67. # [12:16] <gsnedders> jgraham: So it seems appropriate for something generic for Critic
  68. # [12:17] <jgraham> gsnedders: Hmm. OK, but critic doesn't have a wiki, does it? Or do you mean on GH? In that case how would anyone find it?
  69. # [12:18] <gsnedders> jgraham: It does on GH. And links from CONTRIBUTING or whatever.
  70. # [12:18] <jgraham> gsnedders: I suppose that could work
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  75. # [12:40] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/google-old-tests: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/c0cbc864716d41eccc1aa25f0c9d772bb83a3e5c
  76. # [12:40] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-old-tests c0cbc86 Denis Ah-Kang: use assert_idl_attribute to check method existence
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  79. # [12:50] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/google-video-audio-attr: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/cb017634619452a543090e267e9483db6c2d2c4f
  80. # [12:50] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-video-audio-attr cb01763 Denis Ah-Kang: Restore old tests and check the non-existence of the audio attribute
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  84. # [13:36] <zcorpan> jgraham: what's the plan for e.g. https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/74 in the face of the python PR?
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  86. # [13:47] <jgraham> zcorpan: I imagine someone (me?) will end up with a painful rebase :(
  87. # [13:49] <zcorpan> i don't know how that works, with the old PR moving tests and the python PR changing the tests in the old location
  88. # [13:49] <jgraham> Badly I think
  89. # [13:51] <jgraham> Well actually
  90. # [13:51] <jgraham> No, still badly
  91. # [13:54] <zcorpan> is the path to least resistance to finish the python PR, then start over with moving the media tests?
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  93. # [14:00] <jgraham> It could be. We can try rebasing that review on top of the python one and see if it works or not
  94. # [14:00] <jgraham> Git might be clever enough about renames. Or might not be
  95. # [14:02] <Ms2ger> No comment
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  99. # [14:28] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #240: Add a test for the absence of a named getter on select elements. (master...select-named-getter) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/240
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  102. # [14:29] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/google-old-tests: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/20226b28c8907d4c54ea3cf5682fc4ce70844f8b
  103. # [14:29] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-old-tests 20226b2 Denis Ah-Kang: remove unneeded assertions...
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  106. # [14:45] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/google-video-audio-attr: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/69cf44d934b742f51495111f735deb2d78c82c35
  107. # [14:45] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-video-audio-attr 69cf44d Denis Ah-Kang: move old-tests/submission/Google/video/audio tests to /html/semantics/embedded-content-0/media-elements...
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  110. # [14:55] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #369: Delete tests looking for the audio attribute in <video> since it doesn't exist (master...deniak/google-video-audio-attr) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/369
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  112. # [14:56] <Ms2ger> ArtB, next tpac at your house? ;)
  113. # [14:56] <ArtB> WFM Ms2ger
  114. # [14:56] * Ms2ger wonders how big ArtB's house is now
  115. # [14:57] <ArtB> although London is ~same distance as Silicon Valley for me
  116. # [14:57] <ArtB> and London >>>>>>>> Silicon Valley
  117. # [14:57] <ArtB> We have about 3.5 acres although most of it is wooded so folks will need to bring camping supplies
  118. # [14:58] <ArtB> (the wifi couldn't be any worse than it was at some past TP meeting)
  119. # [14:58] <gsnedders> +1 for London
  120. # [15:00] <jgraham> +1 for camping at ArtB's house
  121. # [15:00] <ArtB> so, darobin, could you please clarify if you like my /TR/ proposal or not ;)
  122. # [15:02] <Yves> silence is... well...
  123. # [15:05] <jgraham> For those not subscribed to spec-prod (like me) this is grumpy darobin: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2013OctDec/0047.html
  124. # [15:13] <darobin> ArtB: I think I still have a few reservations
  125. # [15:13] <darobin> jgraham: why grumpy? I thought it was all quite light-hearted
  126. # [15:14] <ArtB> yeah, it seemed a bit db-y to me too
  127. # [15:14] <ArtB> but not surprising ;)
  128. # [15:14] <darobin> db-y?
  129. # [15:15] <darobin> hey, if I'd meant to be mean I'd have started with "Gee, Art" :)
  130. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> Douche bag? ;)
  131. # [15:15] <darobin> ah
  132. # [15:16] <darobin> unfair!
  133. # [15:16] <Ms2ger> Or Daro Bin-y?
  134. # [15:17] <jgraham> Drew Barrymore?
  135. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> Database?
  136. # [15:20] <darobin> so long as it's not database I don't mind
  137. # [15:20] <darobin> I do have a certain je-ne-sais-quoi of Drew Barrymore
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  148. # [16:29] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/google-old-tests: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/33f4c1de45d382c704edf69148784ca098d9f114
  149. # [16:29] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-old-tests 33f4c1d Denis Ah-Kang: fix test on preload empty value...
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  161. # [17:54] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #368: Deniak/google old tests (master...deniak/google-old-tests) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/368
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  164. # [17:54] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/b8a8d4306e65d0c209535fe17a8be45ff660b9cc
  165. # [17:54] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master b8a8d43 Simon Pieters: Merge pull request #368 from w3c/deniak/google-old-tests...
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  167. # [17:55] <denis> zcorpan, thanks for the thorough review
  168. # [17:58] <zcorpan> denis: np
  169. # [18:00] <zcorpan> denis: thank you for working on the tests
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  171. # [18:01] <jgraham> Thank you both :)
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  173. # [18:05] <denis> I'll soon try to review some PRs but I need to buy a second pair of eyes first ;)
  174. # [18:05] <krisk> http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/2dcontext/drawing-images-to-the-canvas/2d.drawImage.9arg.destsize.html and others has been fixed!
  175. # [18:06] <krisk> Thanks darobin wherever you are
  176. # [18:11] <mdyck_> Is the HTML testing task force 'neeting' on mondays now?
  177. # [18:11] <mdyck_> s/neet/meet/
  178. # [18:12] <mdyck_> I just noticed that krisk's message says Oct 21 (and previous said Oct 7)
  179. # [18:12] <krisk> It's always been on tuesdays - though I'm flexible if another time is better for others
  180. # [18:13] <krisk> My bad :(
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  182. # [18:13] <mdyck_> ah,ok
  183. # [18:13] <krisk> I'm trying to be less formal - though if being more formal helps so be it...
  184. # [18:14] <krisk> In theory this is just a mechanism for people to gather and discuss stuff while also making progress on tests/specs/infrastructure
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  186. # [18:16] <krisk> Hey jgraham and news/updates on wptserve/pywebsocket?
  187. # [18:19] <jgraham> krisk: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-test-infra/2013OctDec/0045.html
  188. # [18:19] <jgraham> Are you subscribed to that list?
  189. # [18:20] <krisk> Yes I am but am trying to overcommunicate :)
  190. # [18:21] <jgraham> OK, well for those not following that list, you should be ;)
  191. # [18:21] <jgraham> But also
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  193. # [18:21] <jgraham> I have made a review for the python-based web server we will use for testing in the future
  194. # [18:21] <krisk> My feedback for HTTPS/SSL is that when we really do need a specific server just have the w3c host the server instance.
  195. # [18:22] <jgraham> I have also converted the web-platform-tests repo to use this rather than apache+php
  196. # [18:22] <krisk> ..or accept that people are going to have to get a cert set up for their server instance
  197. # [18:22] <jgraham> This will provide a self-hosted environment so you will write "python serve.py" and get an identical environment to everyone else
  198. # [18:23] <jgraham> krisk: Yeah, that's basically the solution we came up with too
  199. # [18:23] <jgraham> "for automation do your own thing. For running tests, use the W3C server. For writing tests, sucks to be you"
  200. # [18:24] <jgraham> (only for https/wss tests ofc)
  201. # [18:25] * Ms2ger changes topic to 'Logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/testing'
  202. # [18:26] <jgraham> krisk: Have you logged in to critic (presumably you have a github account)? You seem like a good reviewer for the changes to the Microsoft-submitted tests
  203. # [18:27] <krisk> With IE11 shipped I will have alot more time, so I do intending on doing a good amount of work in webapps/html wg
  204. # [18:27] <jgraham> Good :)
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  206. # [18:27] <krisk> We (Microsoft) have a number of tests that we created while building IE11 that would be good to share
  207. # [18:27] <jgraham> I can add you as a reviewer even if you don't get around to it before someone else
  208. # [18:28] <jgraham> There isn't any commitment to do anything
  209. # [18:28] <krisk> Q: so how does stuff on http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/submissions/ get pushed?
  210. # [18:28] * ArtB starts working on a ToDo list for Krisk and WebApps ;-)
  211. # [18:28] <jgraham> But I don't have to ofc
  212. # [18:29] <jgraham> krisk: There's a script that listens for pull requests on the github repo and checks out the corresponding ref
  213. # [18:29] <jgraham> It isn't super-robust
  214. # [18:32] <krisk> Fine to add me as a reviewer, Travis Leithead and Jacob Rossi
  215. # [18:33] <krisk> Beyond editing Travis is also looking at webidl and Jacob does alot with touch
  216. # [18:36] <jgraham> krisk: OK. I found their accounts, but not yours. Have you ever signed in to critic (it uses github for authentication, but doesn't know about your gh account until you sign in)?
  217. # [18:37] <krisk> I have not signed into critic - but I will thanks
  218. # [18:38] <jgraham> krisk: Thanks. If you don't have your email address set to be public in your gh profile, it is quite useful if you could add it on the critic homepage
  219. # [18:39] <jgraham> It shouldn't generate much mail (unless you sign up for lots of reviews ;)
  220. # [18:40] <krisk> ok
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  237. # [21:55] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] AutomatedTester opened pull request #381: Adding WebDriver Modal tests (master...webdriver-modals) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/381
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