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  1. # Session Start: Sat Nov 09 00:00:00 2013
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  12. # [02:23] * angel the dino is bigger than I thought, cool!
  13. # [02:24] <belem> sangwhan, where are u
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  15. # [02:25] <sangwhan> belem: i was there a moment ago, will be back in 5 mins
  16. # [02:26] <sangwhan> belem: anything urgent?
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  18. # [02:27] <belem> no, will find you 45 minutes later
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  23. # [02:49] <sangwhan> Someone please tell the hotel that the wifi is horribly broken
  24. # [02:50] <jgraham> It seems to be kind of slow at least
  25. # [02:50] <jgraham> Not sure that's the same thing
  26. # [02:51] <sangwhan> jgraham: It keeps disconnecting in my case
  27. # [02:53] * jgraham changes topic to 'TestTWF/Shenzhen Logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/testing'
  28. # [02:57] <simonstewart> Hi
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  30. # [02:58] <AutomatedTester> hello simonstewart
  31. # [02:58] <simonstewart> Hello AutomatedTester
  32. # [03:01] <simonstewart> Where's a good place to get a decent coffee in Shenzhen? I need some caffeine. Or is tea a better option here?
  33. # [03:02] <angel> to Simon, the lobby bar
  34. # [03:02] <simonstewart> Thanks, angel
  35. # [03:05] <angel> there is also a Starbucks in 800 meters, in case you prefer
  36. # [03:09] <AutomatedTester> angel: is it walkable?
  37. # [03:09] <AutomatedTester> I mean, is it easy to get to without walking onto the highway :)
  38. # [03:13] <sangwhan> AutomatedTester: take a taxi, that's what the hotel suggests
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  40. # [03:18] <simonstewart> A taxi for 800 metres? That's keen.
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  42. # [03:18] <angel> ah,it is walkable, but the way is a bit confusing
  43. # [03:20] <simonstewart> Ah. OK.
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  46. # [03:20] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/python_review_2: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/fb0903af20fc25c519054191990e3a6ee59c134b
  47. # [03:20] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/python_review_2 fb0903a James Graham: Update use of headers.append
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  49. # [03:22] <jgraham> Is there an award for first push of the day? ;)
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  51. # [03:25] <jgraham> darobin: ! Just the person I had some work for
  52. # [03:25] <jgraham> :)
  53. # [03:25] <darobin> jgraham!
  54. # [03:25] <darobin> is there an official channel for the conference?
  55. # [03:25] <jgraham> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/showcomment?chain=661 <- decide if this is good enough
  56. # [03:25] <simonstewart> Sure. Come here and I'll give you a hug
  57. # [03:25] <darobin> also, any chance there's food somewhere? I missed breakfast
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  60. # [03:26] <jgraham> I think #testing is the official channel for TestTWF
  61. # [03:26] * darobin looks for simonstewart to claim his hug
  62. # [03:26] <darobin> yeah, that wfm
  63. # [03:26] <jgraham> If it isn't we need to have word
  64. # [03:26] <jgraham> s
  65. # [03:26] <simonstewart> darobin: #testing is the channel according to the cheat sheet I have
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  67. # [03:26] <simonstewart> darobin. I'll stand up
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  69. # [03:27] <simonstewart> Sitting near the back and close to the t-shirt table
  70. # [03:27] <sangwhan> Does anyone know the tpac2013 ap password? (I don't plan to do a ttwf on a bloody phone, can't get on wifi)
  71. # [03:28] <astearns> w3ctencent
  72. # [03:31] <jgraham> darobin: Thanks
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  75. # [03:34] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/python_review_2: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/83927dfb042ecce64aef088c03af6ce9ec5a67b2
  76. # [03:34] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/python_review_2 83927df James Graham: Typos
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  79. # [03:35] * angel wonder if anyone see Tobie Langel on ttwf?
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  81. # [03:37] <jgraham> Maybe the dino ate him?
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  91. # [03:45] <sangwhan> astearns: thanks
  92. # [03:46] <darobin_> wow, network!
  93. # [03:46] <darobin_> what happened?
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  95. # [03:47] <darobin> are any of you using a wifi other than wzhotel?
  96. # [03:47] <wilhelm> Yes. TPAC2013.
  97. # [03:47] <wilhelm> Works significantly better. Well, until more people join, I guess.
  98. # [03:47] <denis> password: w3ctencent
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  103. # [03:52] <darobin> wilhelm, denis: thanks!
  104. # [03:52] <darobin> I feel human again
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  108. # [03:57] <simonstewart> angel: not seen tobie yet
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  110. # [03:59] * angel to Simon, thanks!
  111. # [04:00] <simonstewart> Does the Great Firewall really not give us access to Google Code?
  112. # [04:01] <darobin> simonstewart: it's quite possible that, as a google service, it would be excluded
  113. # [04:01] <darobin> but then again, who uses *that*?
  114. # [04:01] <simonstewart> I hear that Chrome and IE are the popular browsers here, and it'd be Really Useful to be able to point people at the IEDriverServer.exe and the ChromeDriver shim for webdriver. Both of those are on Google Code
  115. # [04:02] <darobin> yeah yeah
  116. # [04:02] <darobin> set up a SOCKS proxy
  117. # [04:02] <simonstewart> Other than me?
  118. # [04:02] <simonstewart> And chrome
  119. # [04:02] <simonstewart> Well, the chromium project
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  121. # [04:02] <darobin> they don't count :)
  122. # [04:03] <simonstewart> Furrfu. The problem is that if people want to write tests for the webdriver spec, making sure that they're right is way easier if you can run them before submitting
  123. # [04:03] <darobin> simonstewart: are you sure that it doesn't work? I think that Firefox isn't using my SOCKS yet it's getting there
  124. # [04:04] <darobin> (alternatively, it might have picked up the proxy automatically)
  125. # [04:04] <simonstewart> I have set dburns on the case, since he has everything set up
  126. # [04:04] <simonstewart> Is there a local site we can use to host binaries and useful instructions?
  127. # [04:05] <wilhelm> I have a server that shouldn't be blocked. We can dump stuff there.
  128. # [04:05] <wilhelm> I'm on VPN now. Can you check if wja.no is available?
  129. # [04:06] <simonstewart> I've been having a lot of trouble reaching sites
  130. # [04:06] <simonstewart> Really not looking forward to attempting to download firefox over this wifi
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  132. # [04:06] <wilhelm> simonstewart: Are you on the TPAC2013 wifi or the hotel one?
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  134. # [04:06] <wilhelm> The former works fine here.
  135. # [04:07] <jgraham> wja.no is working
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  137. # [04:07] <jgraham> TPAC wifi is "OK"
  138. # [04:07] <wilhelm> Then I'll dump files there.
  139. # [04:08] <darobin> if needed we can also easily set up a place to host things on w3.org
  140. # [04:08] <darobin> well, for values of easily that involve using CVS
  141. # [04:09] <wilhelm> I can just wget the appropraite binaries to here: http://wja.no/t/webdriver/
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  148. # [04:14] <wilhelm> https://code.google.com/p/selenium/downloads/list works for me outside VPN, though. Maybe the DNS is cached.
  149. # [04:15] <jgraham> wfm too
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  152. # [04:24] <wilhelm> I mirrored all the files to here, just in case: http://wja.no/t/webdriver/
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  183. # [06:11] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] xiaojunwu opened pull request #401: [testtwf-shenzhen] Add tests for form controls validation (master...xiaojunwu/form-validate) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/401
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  190. # [06:26] <wilhelm> https://code.google.com/p/selenium/source/browse/#git%2Fjava%2Fclient%2Ftest%2Forg%2Fopenqa%2Fselenium
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  206. # [06:52] <wilhelm> simonstewart: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebDriver/Test_suite
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  214. # [06:52] <jonathan> hi all
  215. # [06:53] <tommy> hello
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  219. # [06:53] <wilhelm> Boo.
  220. # [06:53] <jonathan> network is TERRIBLE
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  228. # [06:56] <darobin_> these git aliases are pretty sweet https://gist.github.com/gnarf/5406589
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  230. # [06:56] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/python_review_2: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/642ba3d7afc34f6f0ecd6777eb4581daa8a3761a
  231. # [06:56] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/python_review_2 642ba3d James Graham: Update README to make default port fixed.
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  238. # [06:58] <yuanyan> Hello testing
  239. # [06:59] <jonathan> for clone the repository: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests
  240. # [06:59] <jonathan> in case somebody want to copy & paste
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  247. # [07:03] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] plehegar opened pull request #402: Initial test for resource timing (master...submissions/google-resource-timing) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/402
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  257. # [07:11] <AutomatedTester> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests
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  259. # [07:11] <Leon> Hello everyone?
  260. # [07:11] <Leon> !
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  275. # [07:22] <wilhelm> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebDriver/Test_suite
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  299. # [07:37] <tobie> git repo for testharness.js: https://github.com/w3c/testharness.js
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  309. # [07:51] <wilhelm> randy: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebDriver/Test_suite
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  316. # [08:02] <tobie> FYI submodules and --recursive cloning should now work on csswg-tests (http://testthewebforward.org/docs/github-101.html#clone)
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  323. # [08:09] <wilhelm> http://blog.troygrosfield.com/2010/12/18/installing-easy_install-and-pip-for-python/
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  330. # [08:18] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] ElegantPig opened pull request #403: test dataset with unicode value (master...ElegantPig/dataset) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/403
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  337. # [08:27] <darobin_> sangwhan: it's defined here http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#concept-form-submit
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  341. # [08:32] <Tab> Hi
  342. # [08:32] <wilhelm> Yo.
  343. # [08:32] <Tab> Some one is here
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  347. # [08:45] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] michaelchensz opened pull request #404: ecmascript test to return document title (master...michaelsz) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/404
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  365. # [09:14] <yuanyan> Request one push: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/405
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  421. # [09:46] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 8903696 kensakukomatsu: fixed author title and href
  422. # [09:46] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master b821c4f Philippe Le Hegaret: Merge pull request #408 from KensakuKOMATSU/submission/kaeru-shenzen...
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  427. # [09:48] <wilhelm> simonste_: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/history.html#the-history-interface
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  429. # [09:49] <simonste_> I was looking at this wilhelm: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/browsers.html#history
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  435. # [09:52] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] darobin closed pull request #406: Test for drawCustomFocusRing (master...kurosawa-takeshi/canvas-drawCustomFocusRing) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/406
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  444. # [10:03] <simonste_> webdriver/navigation/get_from_http_test.py
  445. # [10:04] <simonste_> ryan: http://selenium.googlecode.com/git/docs/api/py/index.html
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  447. # [10:06] <simonste_> In particular, these modules might be useful http://selenium.googlecode.com/git/docs/api/py/webdriver_remote/selenium.webdriver.remote.webdriver.html#module-selenium.webdriver.remote.webdriver
  448. # [10:06] <simonste_> http://selenium.googlecode.com/git/docs/api/py/webdriver_remote/selenium.webdriver.remote.webelement.html#module-selenium.webdriver.remote.webelement
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  456. # [10:14] <leif> zcorpan_: More CSS reftest docs: http://wiki.csswg.org/test/reftest
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  460. # [10:15] <rhauck> zhiqiang's slide deck from this morning on reftests: http://zqzhang.github.io/reveal.js/reftest-and-review.html#/
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  465. # [10:24] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] envymask opened pull request #414: Test HTML5 input type color (master...master) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/414
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  474. # [10:35] <simonstewart> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webdriver/raw-file/tip/webdriver-spec.html#navigation-commands
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  476. # [10:58] <AutomatedTester> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/370
  477. # [10:58] <simonstewart> I'm on it
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  479. # [10:58] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/python_review_2: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/b305e538e921c434758c4d0a9be5c2e40093afe1
  480. # [10:58] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/python_review_2 b305e53 James Graham: UPdate to latest wptserve
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  487. # [11:01] <darobin_> "NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Failure"
  488. # [11:01] <darobin_> oh, really, thank you Firefox
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  490. # [11:05] <simonstewart> http://selenium.googlecode.com/git/docs/api/py/webdriver_remote/selenium.webdriver.remote.webdriver.html
  491. # [11:05] <simonstewart> http://selenium.googlecode.com/git/docs/api/py/webdriver_remote/selenium.webdriver.remote.webelement.html
  492. # [11:06] <simonstewart> https://code.google.com/p/selenium/wiki/JsonWireProtocol
  493. # [11:06] <simonstewart> That's the wire protocol for webdriver. A big piece of my remaining work on the spec is to pull that into the w3c webdriver spec
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  496. # [11:07] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] kurosawa-takeshi opened pull request #417: Added metadata for my previous test (master...kurosawa-takeshi/canvas-drawCustomFocusRing-metadata) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/417
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  500. # [11:14] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] darobin closed pull request #417: Added metadata to my previous test (master...kurosawa-takeshi/canvas-drawCustomFocusRing-metadata) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/417
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  508. # [11:36] <simonstewart> bryan: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/405
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  513. # [11:43] <simonstewart> How in the name of TBL do we land diffs? From critic, github's "magic green merge button", or the command line by pushing to github?
  514. # [11:44] <simonstewart> And do we have a habit of squashing diffs to a single logical change, or leave the individual diffs "as is"?
  515. # [11:44] <simonstewart> jgraham: ^^
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  517. # [11:47] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sunling opened pull request #419: Added test for draggable attribute. (master...master) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/419
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  520. # [11:47] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] shs96c closed pull request #415: Added test for refreshing pages; verified on MacOs 10.7.5 Firefox and Ch... (master...blsaws/webdriver) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/415
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  526. # [11:57] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] shs96c opened pull request #420: Switch back to using firefox as the default test browser in the webdrive... (master...quick-fix) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/420
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  528. # [11:57] <simonstewart> wilhelm, jgraham: Can I get a quick review? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/410
  529. # [11:58] <simonstewart> Technically, I could just do the merge myself, but that doesn't feel like playing in the spirit of the event
  530. # [12:00] <MikeSmith> for testing the HTML spec, we really need to have good instructions for people on how to tell the difference between a UA conformance requirement and a document-conformance requirement
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  533. # [12:00] <MikeSmith> or in other words, between something that you can test in browser and something you can test with the validator
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  535. # [12:01] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Czou opened pull request #421: Fix for Test Web Report (master...master) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/421
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