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  75. # [11:04] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #432: README.md for Indexed Database API spec (master...AFBarstow/IndexedDB-REAME.md) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/432
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  78. # [11:04] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/38ab30b904d7...a274ad93ef5d
  79. # [11:04] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 78f6825 Arthur Barstow: README.md for Indexed Database API spec
  80. # [11:04] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master a274ad9 Simon Pieters: Merge pull request #432 from AFBarstow/AFBarstow/IndexedDB-REAME.md...
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  89. # [12:32] <ato> zcorpan: It's your birthday? Have a happy one (-:
  90. # [12:32] <zcorpan> ato: was yesterday. thanks!
  91. # [12:33] <darobin> happy belated birthday zcorpan!
  92. # [12:34] <zcorpan> i don't always revive elements from the dead, but when i do, it's on my birthday
  93. # [12:35] <jgraham> They do say it's nicer to give gifts than recieve them
  94. # [12:35] <jgraham> And what could be nicer than the gift of zombie <picture>?
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  96. # [12:38] <zcorpan> next year, i'll look at <blink>
  97. # [12:43] <jgraham> Personally, all I want for Christmas is <isindex>
  98. # [12:44] <darobin> I'd really like a vintage <vspace>
  99. # [12:44] <darobin> that was awesome
  100. # [12:44] <zcorpan> isindex as a real element instead of a parser macro? :-)
  101. # [12:44] <darobin> <vspace> is so hip it's not even obsolete
  102. # [12:46] <zcorpan> i didn't know vspace was a thing
  103. # [12:46] <jgraham> Which is why it's not hip
  104. # [12:47] <jgraham> Everyone has to *know* that you are using something obsolete, otherwise what's the point
  105. # [12:47] <jgraham> YOu look eccentric rather than (anti-)fashionable
  106. # [12:48] <darobin> bah
  107. # [12:48] <darobin> I can say that I loved <vspace> before anyone noticed that it should be obsoleted
  108. # [12:48] <darobin> that's how avant-garde I am
  109. # [12:49] <darobin> I got there so far ahead of the curve, I could be working for Opera
  110. # [12:49] <zcorpan> i see vspace in xml-rfc and waml. i don't see anything about html. do you have a pointer darobin?
  111. # [12:50] <darobin> zcorpan: I think it was only in one of the weird mobile things indeed :) That's how hardcore!
  112. # [12:50] <darobin> there was a Netscape thing too, but I think that was just an attribute
  113. # [12:51] * darobin looks
  114. # [12:51] <jgraham> Yeah, there is a vspace attribute
  115. # [12:51] <darobin> and its good friend hspace!
  116. # [12:51] * jgraham is actually slightly surprised that darobin never worked for Opera
  117. # [12:51] <darobin> it almost happened once or twice
  118. # [12:54] <jgraham> I'm sure you would have felt at home in the WML mines
  119. # [12:55] <darobin> oh yeah, WML was such a crock of shit
  120. # [12:56] <darobin> I recall how it was in agencies then
  121. # [12:56] <darobin> from one day to the next all of a sudden every customer had to have a WML site
  122. # [12:56] <darobin> and then it vanished as fast as it came
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  138. # [14:51] <MikeSmith> WMLScript
  139. # [15:01] <zcorpan> it didn't vanish fast enough for presto to drop support
  140. # [15:03] <jgraham> :`(
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  142. # [15:17] <AutomatedTester> anyone know where CSS UI spec bugs should go?
  143. # [15:18] <AutomatedTester> CSS: Basic User Interface?
  144. # [15:18] <jgraham> /dev/null
  145. # [15:18] <jgraham> AFAIK it will have the same effect
  146. # [15:18] <AutomatedTester> *sigh*
  147. # [15:19] <jgraham> What's the bug?
  148. # [15:19] <AutomatedTester> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23825
  149. # [15:19] <AutomatedTester> found that tantek said he would document it in CSS UI
  150. # [15:20] <AutomatedTester> I though I would relieve zcorpan of this bug :)
  151. # [15:20] <jgraham> Not sure that hit testing is CSS UI
  152. # [15:20] <AutomatedTester> well, annevk and others have an action to define it there
  153. # [15:20] <jgraham> Really?
  154. # [15:20] <AutomatedTester> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2011Jul/att-0023/26-fx-minutes.html
  155. # [15:21] <jgraham> I haven't seen any evidence that anyone is actually working on defining hot testing
  156. # [15:21] <jgraham> *hit
  157. # [15:21] <jgraham> would be nice though
  158. # [15:21] <zcorpan> yeah hot testing would be nice
  159. # [15:21] <AutomatedTester> well in that log they say they will use hixies definition
  160. # [15:21] <AutomatedTester> zcorpan: ++
  161. # [15:21] <AutomatedTester> and tantek would do the work and there is an action
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  163. # [15:22] <AutomatedTester> I appreciate actions are meaningless but its a start
  164. # [15:22] <jgraham> Especially actions from two years ago
  165. # [15:23] * jgraham presumes hot testing would actually be much less exciting than it sounds; just normal testing in a very warm room. Like Bikram Yoga
  166. # [15:28] <AutomatedTester> jgraham: but... what if hot testing is about food?
  167. # [15:28] <zcorpan> or testing in hell
  168. # [15:28] <Ms2ger> That's a tautology
  169. # [15:29] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: ++
  170. # [15:29] <jgraham> Speaking of hell
  171. # [15:29] <jgraham> These results don't look good :(
  172. # [15:46] <Ms2ger> jgraham, which?
  173. # [15:50] <jgraham> Me running the tests in Gecko. Either something is very flaky or I am am screwing up writing the expected results
  174. # [15:56] <Ms2ger> :(
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  185. # [17:11] <darobin> AutomatedTester: thanks for the heads up re the Brazil thing, it appears to be in the process of being handled
  186. # [17:12] <AutomatedTester> darobin: no worries
  187. # [17:12] <AutomatedTester> darobin: it looked like a particularly nasty shit storm that could easily have gotten out of hand
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  189. # [17:13] <darobin> AutomatedTester: well yeah, because we really needed a regional W3C office to call anti-DRM people communists who are bullying W3C out of ignorance
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  191. # [17:14] <darobin> the weird sound you're hearing is that of my laughter interrupted by my head banging on my desk at regular intervals
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  193. # [17:16] <darobin> the saddest part is that they did that apparently without using any of the fine w3cmemes that would have matched so well
  194. # [17:19] <AutomatedTester> darobin: I'll ping annevk to get some done then
  195. # [17:19] <AutomatedTester> :D
  196. # [17:20] <ato> Are you allowed to select two files with the same filename for <input type=file multiple>?
  197. # [17:20] <AutomatedTester> he is probably playing playstation, I mean doing important TAG work
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  199. # [17:21] <darobin> the playstation is an important architectural component of the Web at 50
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  202. # [17:41] <jgraham> He appears to be playing with his phone fwiw
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