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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jan 07 00:00:00 2014
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  31. # [08:26] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak created deniak/ms-windowobject (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/de92f1bc8c62
  32. # [08:26] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/ms-windowobject de92f1b Denis Ah-Kang: MS test on Location
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  35. # [08:28] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak opened pull request #496: MS test on Location (master...deniak/ms-windowobject) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/496
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  39. # [09:34] <Ms2ger> Note: We support PHP on w3c-test.org. There is a builtin review process of the PHP code in the mercurial respository.
  40. # [09:34] <Ms2ger> Someone should probably update http://www.w3.org/wiki/Testing/Requirements
  41. # [09:42] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: I can I guess
  42. # [09:42] <MikeSmith> will do right now
  43. # [09:43] <Ms2ger> Thanks
  44. # [09:48] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: know how I can do strikeout text in mediawiki?
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  46. # [09:49] * MikeSmith tries s
  47. # [09:51] <MikeSmith> "The exact list of languages that the Web test server must support remains to be precised"
  48. # [09:52] <MikeSmith> "to be precised"? wtf language maven wrote that?
  49. # [09:55] <odinho> løl
  50. # [09:56] * Ms2ger precises MikeSmith
  51. # [09:57] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: http://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?title=Testing%2FRequirements&diff=71297&oldid=63848
  52. # [09:57] * MikeSmith ambigufies Ms2ger
  53. # [09:58] * Ms2ger confrabulates MikeSmith
  54. # [10:00] <MikeSmith> haha "This isn't CSS." indeed
  55. # [10:01] * Ms2ger grumbles about MS tests
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  63. # [10:25] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/ms-windowobject: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/db4967c5fb8787125d811d54f6dae8542882676c
  64. # [10:25] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/ms-windowobject db4967c Denis Ah-Kang: rewrite test following ms2ger's comments
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  68. # [10:29] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/ms-windowobject: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/75fd2daedbc3a6f07ca432caab7162124686d9ac
  69. # [10:29] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/ms-windowobject 75fd2da Denis Ah-Kang: fix test
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  82. # [13:43] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak created deniak/ms-video (+3 new commits): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/756b05776359^...c537a08f54b9
  83. # [13:43] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/ms-video 756b057 Denis Ah-Kang: tests already moved to /html/semantics/embedded-content-0/the-video-element
  84. # [13:43] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/ms-video 1ec17d6 Denis Ah-Kang: already tested by /html/dom/interfaces.html
  85. # [13:43] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/ms-video c537a08 Denis Ah-Kang: tests on video element...
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  88. # [13:43] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak opened pull request #497: MS tests on video element (master...deniak/ms-video) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/497
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  103. # [16:54] <AutomatedTester> darobin: yo
  104. # [16:54] <darobin> AutomatedTester: yo yo yo
  105. # [16:54] <AutomatedTester> darobin: how can I get respec to show what exceptions will be thrown for a specific call?
  106. # [16:54] <AutomatedTester> I can't see how to do it
  107. # [16:54] <darobin> AutomatedTester: that's not supported in WebIDL, so ReSpec does not really support it either
  108. # [16:54] <darobin> *but*
  109. # [16:54] <darobin> well, no, forget that "but"
  110. # [16:54] <AutomatedTester> I could do it under returns....
  111. # [16:55] <darobin> you *could* force ReSpec into using the old WebIDL syntax but I strongly recommend against that
  112. # [16:55] <darobin> yeah, people put those in the prose
  113. # [16:55] <AutomatedTester> I will do it that way
  114. # [16:56] <AutomatedTester> I am cleaning up a major section and the exceptions is the last part to tackle
  115. # [16:56] <Ms2ger> Simple... <ol><li>If foo, throw bar. <li>If baz, throw quux. <li>...</ol>
  116. # [16:57] <darobin> yeah, what Ms2ger said
  117. # [16:57] <darobin> there's no specific support for it, it's just stuff you describe in prose
  118. # [16:58] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: thats what I am going to do but wanted to check if there is a proper way to do it
  119. # [16:58] <darobin> that's proper :)
  120. # [16:58] <Ms2ger> Right
  121. # [16:59] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: since there are magical ways to format specs
  122. # [16:59] <Ms2ger> Those are usually crap :)
  123. # [16:59] <darobin> hehe
  124. # [16:59] <Ms2ger> darobin, have you got rid of ancient-style formatting in respec yet?
  125. # [16:59] <darobin> AutomatedTester: besides, you're not doing a browser API so you don't need to worry about doing exceptions right the DOM way
  126. # [16:59] <darobin> Ms2ger: nope
  127. # [17:00] <darobin> I really should get around to that, it would make the world a nicer place
  128. # [17:00] <Ms2ger> Yes
  129. # [17:01] <darobin> then again, is making the world a nicer place *really* my goal?
  130. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> Yes
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  132. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> (What, I can try)
  133. # [17:02] <darobin> haha
  134. # [17:02] <darobin> let me call my new MPAA overlords to check in with them on this topic
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  142. # [17:18] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/c343b55877b2cd1cc02a0e40adecf66158641b91
  143. # [17:18] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master c343b55 James Graham: Change manifest.ref to manifest.rev
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  145. # [17:19] <AutomatedTester> darobin: just did the follow https://www.evernote.com/shard/s63/sh/a15bb428-5e4b-45c4-aa3b-ed554cfc9566/b33cba3d95512c521b57943f0dcb03cf
  146. # [17:20] <AutomatedTester> actually I should use a <ul> instead of a <ol>
  147. # [17:20] <darobin> AutomatedTester: that LGTM
  148. # [17:24] <Ms2ger> AutomatedTester, doesn't lgtm :)
  149. # [17:24] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: use your constructive criticism voice....
  150. # [17:24] <Ms2ger> "The following errors may be thrown" means that either throwing or not throwing is allowed
  151. # [17:25] <AutomatedTester> arggg.... specs
  152. # [17:27] <jgraham> Actually, that sounds all wrong
  153. # [17:28] <jgraham> It is written as a statement of fact rather than a conformance requirement on an implementation
  154. # [17:28] <Ms2ger> Yes
  155. # [17:30] * AutomatedTester will rewrite
  156. # [17:34] * darobin was just commenting on the list of errors, which does LGTM
  157. # [17:34] <AutomatedTester> darobin: thanks
  158. # [17:34] <darobin> I'll admit with shame I haven't read the rest of the spec, I need to look at it at some point
  159. # [17:34] <AutomatedTester> I am still learning so happy to get any feedback
  160. # [17:35] <jgraham> Unless the conformance requirement is elsewhere it should say something like "The following steps must run: 1. If press_flag is true throw a unsupported_operation exception. 2. If the context element is not in a document throw a stale_element_reference exception. 3. Fire an event named touchstart at the element at coordinates (x, y) relative to the top left of the element. 4. Set press_flag to be true" (I have no idea what the scroll_into_view has to d[CUT]
  161. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> The user agent must run the following steps:
  162. # [17:35] <AutomatedTester> we do have that in another part of the spec
  163. # [17:36] <AutomatedTester> but I can see it needs work
  164. # [17:36] <jgraham> If this is informative text rather than normative there are different rules ofc. "Don't use RFC2119 keywords, even by accident" is one of them
  165. # [17:48] <MikeSmith> AutomatedTester: you pinged me yesterday?
  166. # [17:49] <AutomatedTester> MikeSmith: I did, wanted to talk about webdriver 2 but have to step away, will you be around on Thursday, if not will email you
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  169. # [17:54] <MikeSmith> AutomatedTester: ok
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