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  11. # [01:51] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zqzhang closed pull request #256: Added a test for the iframe element sandbox attribute, allow-script (master...submission/zqzhang/html-sandbox-allow-scripts) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/256
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  34. # [07:06] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/4de0f0ac69ba33b767ffa01af3c141efa109cb4f
  35. # [07:06] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 4de0f0a xiaojunwu: Create tests for the style element...
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  38. # [07:08] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak closed pull request #374: Add 7 tests to test the style element (master...xiaojunwu/the-style-element) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/374
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  58. # [09:42] <denis> jgraham, zcorpan? is one of you willing to finish reviewing https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/658 ?
  59. # [09:43] <denis> there's just a test on img complete missing
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  62. # [10:24] * zcorpan reviewing
  63. # [10:24] <zcorpan> it's not tracking btw
  64. # [10:27] <denis> probably an issue with my merge :-/
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  66. # [10:34] <zcorpan> jgraham: can you help with the tracking? ^
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  69. # [11:07] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip closed pull request #617: Add a test for an edge case resource selection invocation in Blink (master...video-insert-other-doc-with-src) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/617
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  72. # [11:07] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/4de0f0ac69ba...3976407739e0
  73. # [11:07] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 6210f8a Philip Jägenstedt: Add a test for an edge case resource selection invocation in Blink...
  74. # [11:07] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 3976407 Philip Jägenstedt: Merge pull request #617 from foolip/video-insert-other-doc-with-src...
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  76. # [11:13] <MikeSmith> so would it be a bad idea to have wptserve send all html files with utf-8 in the content-type header by default?
  77. # [11:14] <MikeSmith> I assume there's some reason it was decided not to
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  79. # [11:22] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #614: Add tests for non-support of FileError and FileException. (master...FileAPI-historical) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/614
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  82. # [11:22] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/3976407739e0...e0aa04f97a27
  83. # [11:22] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 956b66a Ms2ger: Add tests for non-support of FileError and FileException.
  84. # [11:22] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master e0aa04f Simon Pieters: Merge pull request #614 from Ms2ger/FileAPI-historical...
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  91. # [11:48] * Topic is 'Testing the Web Platform | http://testthewebforward.org | PR Count: 132 (2014-02-06)'
  92. # [11:48] * Set by denis on Thu Feb 06 13:32:38
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  94. # [11:56] <jgraham> denis: Please don't merge master into a review branch. It just doesn't make any sense
  95. # [11:57] <jgraham> If you need changes from master rebase onto master
  96. # [11:57] <jgraham> If you don't *need* changes don't do anything
  97. # [11:57] <jgraham> zcorpan: Fixed, kinda
  98. # [11:58] <jgraham> (in the sense that it's fixed, but there's a effective merge commit with all the recent changes)
  99. # [11:58] <denis> jgraham, thanks, I won't do the same mistakes
  100. # [11:59] * Ms2ger changes topic to 'Testing the Web Platform | http://testthewebforward.org | PR Count: 123 (2014-02-11)'
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  102. # [12:01] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/1286a5267648b210d3658bb96f807711f1bb4762
  103. # [12:01] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 1286a52 xiaojunwu: [testtwf-shenzhen]Add some cases for form controls validation...
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  106. # [12:01] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak closed pull request #401: [testtwf-shenzhen] Add tests for form controls validation (master...xiaojunwu/form-validate) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/401
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  114. # [14:05] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/1286a5267648...d1fc969713d1
  115. # [14:05] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master b4b4cda xiaojunwu: Add tests for the document level focus APIs
  116. # [14:05] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master ef988e1 xiaojunwu: Remove two tests and move the iframe below the script
  117. # [14:05] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master d1fc969 Ms2ger: Merge pull request #490 from xiaojunwu/submission/xiaojunwu/focus-document-level-apis...
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  120. # [14:05] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger closed pull request #490: Add tests for the document level focus APIs (master...submission/xiaojunwu/focus-document-level-apis) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/490
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  122. # [14:06] <Ms2ger> ArtB, definitely not
  123. # [14:07] <ArtB> ms2ger, bummer
  124. # [14:07] * ArtB still isn't sure if ms2ger isn't really MikeSmith ;-)
  125. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> I don't think that particular possibility has been disproved yet
  126. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> Then again, it's still possible that I'm you :)
  127. # [14:10] <ArtB> woah
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  129. # [14:10] <Ms2ger> Did I just blow my mind?
  130. # [14:11] <jgraham> heh
  131. # [14:18] <Ms2ger> I always forget that ArtB was into rdf
  132. # [14:19] <ArtB> ssshhhhh
  133. # [14:19] <Yves> that last sentence indeed a clue that ms2ger is indeed ArtB
  134. # [14:19] <Yves> s/indeed/is/
  135. # [14:20] <Ms2ger> "that last sentence indeed a clue that ms2ger is is ArtB"
  136. # [14:20] <ArtB> ms2ger "oh, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"
  137. # [14:20] <Ms2ger> Huh?
  138. # [14:20] <Ms2ger> Hah
  139. # [14:21] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: your s/// impl is searching backwards
  140. # [14:21] <Yves> sed is not matching on the last match but on the first
  141. # [14:22] <Ms2ger> I must not be a conforming sed implementation
  142. # [14:23] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: don't have such rfc2119 requirements on yourself :-P
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  146. # [15:32] <Ms2ger> Oh heh, that bmp is a my opera screenshot
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  149. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> Oh. So are the other images
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  152. # [15:40] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip opened pull request #619: Don't wait for the load event for iframe.contentDocument (master...video-insert-other-doc-with-src) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/619
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  155. # [15:44] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger pushed 2 new commits to presto/contentType: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/61356f1c2ffb...ad8e735d3a33
  156. # [15:44] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/presto/contentType d200db9 Ms2ger: Replace the images by small green squares.
  157. # [15:44] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/presto/contentType ad8e735 Ms2ger: Fix issues found by zcorpan.
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  161. # [16:11] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/bc5340366807a6730ce13874c789eb8ef84966b7
  162. # [16:11] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master bc53403 jgraham: Merge pull request #613 from w3c/presto/contentType...
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  165. # [16:29] <AutomatedTester> darobin: where do I see the version of respec again?
  166. # [16:33] <AutomatedTester> nevermind
  167. # [16:34] <darobin> AutomatedTester: in the source? :)
  168. # [16:34] <AutomatedTester> I can find it in my copy but you gave me a url for the lastest version
  169. # [16:34] <darobin> whoa, you must have an ancient copy
  170. # [16:34] <darobin> http://www.w3.org/Tools/respec/respec-w3c-common
  171. # [16:35] <AutomatedTester> its only 4 versions behind
  172. # [16:35] <AutomatedTester> 3.2.6
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  174. # [16:35] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip opened pull request #620: Cleanup media js (master...cleanup-media-js) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/620
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  176. # [16:39] <darobin> AutomatedTester: weird that you don't have a version then!
  177. # [16:40] <AutomatedTester> darobin: its because I am special
  178. # [16:40] * AutomatedTester is a unique snowflake, and I dont follow the rules ;)
  179. # [16:40] <darobin> yeah, for one you're using a private copy
  180. # [16:41] <AutomatedTester> because browsers + offline === sad times
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  182. # [16:47] <AutomatedTester> darobin: ever thought of adding a changelog to respec?
  183. # [16:48] <darobin> AutomatedTester: you mean like git log? :)
  184. # [16:50] <AutomatedTester> darobin: yea, but with only the comments that are relevant to respec
  185. # [16:51] <AutomatedTester> but guess you havent felt a need for it
  186. # [16:51] <darobin> AutomatedTester: well, I'm a lazy bastard
  187. # [16:51] <AutomatedTester> darobin: |git changelog| ftw
  188. # [16:51] <Ms2ger> News?
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  190. # [16:53] <darobin> AutomatedTester: that still sounds like work :)
  191. # [16:53] <darobin> if you tell me why you need it I'll mull it over :)
  192. # [16:54] <AutomatedTester> darobin: to see if I need to update my version straight away or if it can wait a few weeks
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  194. # [17:06] <darobin> AutomatedTester: as a rule you can always wait a few weeks; in other cases either you'll notice a bug with your draft or for really serious problems there's an advisory on spec-prod
  195. # [17:07] <darobin> AutomatedTester: I'd rather not add myself more work to support the case of offline copies :)
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  202. # [17:31] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip opened pull request #621: Test for abort and emptied events in HTMLMediaElement.load() (master...load-algorithm-networkState) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/621
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  207. # [17:55] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip closed pull request #620: Cleanup of media.js (master...cleanup-media-js) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/620
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  210. # [17:55] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/bc5340366807...b43fba788cf2
  211. # [17:55] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 241fcc3 Philip Jägenstedt: Remove duplicate media.js...
  212. # [17:55] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master df9fc1f Philip Jägenstedt: Remove unused functions in media.js...
  213. # [17:55] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 6c196fa Philip Jägenstedt: Rewrite relative paths to /common/media.js to absolute paths...
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  216. # [18:09] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip opened pull request #622: Remove trailing whitespace in media tests (master...media-trailing-whitespace) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/622
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  220. # [18:58] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/b43fba788cf2...27f3f8113fdf
  221. # [18:58] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master bfc15ff Philip Jägenstedt: Remove trailing whitespace in media tests
  222. # [18:58] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 27f3f81 Ms2ger: Merge pull request #622 from foolip/media-trailing-whitespace...
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  246. # [23:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] foolip opened pull request #623: Automate audio_003.html (master...automate-audio_003) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/623
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  248. # [23:21] <MikeSmith> jgraham: You around? I was wondering earlier about having wptserve send HTML with charset=utf-8 by default
  249. # [23:25] <jgraham> MikeSmith: I am and it could
  250. # [23:25] <jgraham> Dunno if it would break anything
  251. # [23:29] <MikeSmith> jgraham: OK I'll make a PR. The thing is now by not sending as UTF-8, browsers are going to handle the documents as Windows-1252, right?
  252. # [23:30] <MikeSmith> which for most of the test caes I guess doesn't make any difference
  253. # [23:30] <MikeSmith> and any ones that contain no-ascii chars should have meta charset anyway
  254. # [23:31] <MikeSmith> anyway it seems better to have the server sending a charset
  255. # [23:33] <MikeSmith> fwiw per the spec, documents aren't HTML-valid unless they come with an encoding declaration somewhere
  256. # [23:33] <MikeSmith> so since many of the current cases don't have meta charset declaration, they're not valid
  257. # [23:34] <MikeSmith> which doesn't really matter for testing in browsers but does matter for the conformance-checkers tests at least, because the validator will first emit an error about the lack of an encoding declaration
  258. # [23:35] <MikeSmith> jgraham: hmm maybe we should have the review guide specify that every test case should have a meta charset?
  259. # [23:36] * MikeSmith will make a PR for that too
  260. # [23:36] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Surely not every test
  261. # [23:36] <MikeSmith> well that's why I said "should"
  262. # [23:36] <jgraham> In general I think tests should be minimal and certainly need not be valid
  263. # [23:37] <MikeSmith> oh
  264. # [23:37] <MikeSmith> ok
  265. # [23:37] <jgraham> (conformance checker tests are a different case)
  266. # [23:37] <MikeSmith> yeah, sure
  267. # [23:38] <jgraham> So which order does charset stuff work? Are browsers still supposed to treat HTTP as gospel?
  268. # [23:38] <MikeSmith> hmm can't remember now which is supposed to win
  269. # [23:39] <MikeSmith> I know it used to be that HTTP was always supposed to win
  270. # [23:40] <MikeSmith> which if that's still the case I guess would mean that any non-UTF-8 case would need a .header file
  271. # [23:40] <MikeSmith> if we added a default UTF-8 chrset in the content-type header I mean
  272. # [23:41] <jgraham> Yeah, HTTP wins
  273. # [23:41] <jgraham> So we can't add anything in the headers
  274. # [23:41] <jgraham> Sorry
  275. # [23:42] <MikeSmith> no worries
  276. # [23:42] <MikeSmith> so then I have another proposal
  277. # [23:42] <MikeSmith> to make things easier for myself, and maybe for others
  278. # [23:43] <MikeSmith> which is, we make __dir__.headers recursive
  279. # [23:43] <MikeSmith> jgraham: I think we have hardly any __dir__.headers files yet
  280. # [23:44] <MikeSmith> so that shouldn't break any existing behavior
  281. # [23:44] <MikeSmith> well except maybe for those few, but if so I'd help fix those
  282. # [23:45] * MikeSmith checkes to see how many __dir__ files there are
  283. # [23:45] <jgraham> Well the slight issue with that is that you have to test for __dir__.headers in every anestor on every request (or imeplement a cache)
  284. # [23:45] <jgraham> *ancestor
  285. # [23:45] <MikeSmith> oh, one
  286. # [23:45] <MikeSmith> one __dir__ file
  287. # [23:46] <jgraham> I guess an implementation that pre-scans the tree for __dir__.headers files and maps them to the subtree to which they will apply is fine by me
  288. # [23:47] <MikeSmith> you mean at server start time?
  289. # [23:47] <MikeSmith> one time
  290. # [23:47] <MikeSmith> if so yeah that would make a lot more sense
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  292. # [23:50] <jgraham> Yes
  293. # [23:51] <MikeSmith> ok
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