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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jul 01 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #testing
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  41. # [11:46] <MikeSmith> wilhelm: btw I think I didn't tell you yet but I definitely will not be at the f2f next week
  42. # [11:47] <wilhelm> MikeSmith: Alright. We'll just assign all tasks to you.
  43. # [11:47] <MikeSmith> heh
  44. # [11:47] <wilhelm> :D
  45. # [11:48] <MikeSmith> I wanted to go but we don't have travel budget for me to travel to more than two WG f2f meetings per year per group
  46. # [11:48] <MikeSmith> but I will be around as needed on IRC
  47. # [11:48] <MikeSmith> and can call in if/when needed as well
  48. # [11:49] <wilhelm> OK. :)
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  50. # [11:59] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Just take it out of your bedget for travelling to sparql meetings ;)
  51. # [12:01] <wilhelm> MikeSmith has a bedget? Sounds comfortable.
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  53. # [12:01] <AutomatedTester> ++
  54. # [12:01] <AutomatedTester> I love that MikeSmith uses emoji to dot reply people on twitter
  55. # [12:04] <MikeSmith> AutomatedTester: yeah I like to mix em up
  56. # [12:05] <AutomatedTester> MikeSmith: I have http://unicodeemoticons.com/ as a pinned tab for such occasions
  57. # [12:05] <MikeSmith> jgraham: I am a sparql endpoint
  58. # [12:05] <AutomatedTester> i ♥ it
  59. # [12:05] * MikeSmith looks
  60. # [12:06] <MikeSmith> one nice thing about using a Japanese IME is that it makes it easy to type emoji
  61. # [12:06] <MikeSmith> like, you can type an arrow by typing the Japanese word for "arrow", then it gives you a choice of which arrow symbol you want (left, right, up, down)
  62. # [12:07] <MikeSmith> or you type the word for "snowman" and you get a snowman
  63. # [12:07] <ato> Ctrl-Cmd-Space on Mac also gives you that.
  64. # [12:07] <AutomatedTester> excuse my ignorance but I thought emoji came from Japan
  65. # [12:07] <botie> AutomatedTester: Sysadmin accidentally destroyed pager with a large hammer.
  66. # [12:07] <ato> But it's annoying that it doesn't default to searching.
  67. # [12:08] <AutomatedTester> ato: TIL, thats useful
  68. # [12:08] <wilhelm> What is this sourcery?
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  71. # [12:08] <wilhelm> -u
  72. # [12:08] <ato> Use the source, wilhelm!
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  87. # [14:15] <Ms2ger> INFO:wptserve:500 GET /dom/nodes/../constants.js (None) 0
  88. # [14:16] <Ms2ger> jgraham, how do I figure out what's happening?
  89. # [14:17] <Ms2ger> Ah
  90. # [14:17] <Ms2ger> Looks like that URL is too difficult?
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  92. # [14:19] <Ms2ger> Perhaps Servo should absolutize URLs
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  99. # [14:39] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Yeah, I'm not sure if servers are supposed to or not
  100. # [14:40] <jgraham> Ms2ger: BTW if you were thinking about how boring your life is, I have some code review for you ;)
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  106. # [15:45] <Ms2ger> jgraham, send email :)
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  111. # [17:46] <ato> wilhelm: Where can I find a list of all our meeting minutes?
  112. # [17:48] <wilhelm> ato: That should be in the wiki, but isn't. Grep our mailing list for the subject 'minutes'. I can collect them and put them up later this week.
  113. # [17:48] <ato> wilhelm: Okay, thanks.
  114. # [17:48] <ato> wilhelm: That would be super-useful for me.
  115. # [17:48] <wilhelm> Noted. :) I can try to get to it tomorrow, if you don't beat me there.
  116. # [17:49] <ato> Yeah, we're going to need to look at the minutes from last time next week.
  117. # [17:49] <wilhelm> I'm panic-hacking to be able to drop off the grid for two days next week.
  118. # [17:49] <wilhelm> Yup.
  119. # [17:49] <ato> (-:
  120. # [17:49] <ato> Me too.
  121. # [17:49] <ato> Or more specifically because of one particular topic we're going to discuss at the meeting. d-:
  122. # [17:50] <wilhelm> :D
  123. # [17:55] * jgraham is glad wilhelm still practises PDD
  124. # [17:55] <darobin> Panic Driven Development?
  125. # [17:55] <darobin> there's another kind?
  126. # [18:00] <ato> That's the one (-:
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  128. # [18:50] <wilhelm> jgraham: Hah. Yes. Well, this time it's all my own fault. So that's okay.
  129. # [18:50] <wilhelm> Self-inflicted PDD is acceptable.
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  133. # [20:03] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham created jgraham/websockets_fixups (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/b159192cc38c
  134. # [20:03] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/websockets_fixups b159192 James Graham: Fix up some problematic ws tests referencing an external server.
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  138. # [20:05] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham opened pull request #1087: Fix up some problematic ws tests referencing an external server. (master...jgraham/websockets_fixups) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1087
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  144. # [21:21] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Did you say you were improving Philip`'s tests?
  145. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> Did I not send the PR?
  146. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1083
  147. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> Also, someone broke one of the tests by removing CRs :)
  148. # [21:23] <jgraham> Oh, you did
  149. # [21:23] <jgraham> I'm too used to your PRs being servo-related
  150. # [21:23] <Ms2ger> :)
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  152. # [21:27] <jgraham> Ms2ger: You may be the right person to review https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1915 btw
  153. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> Oh right
  154. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> Not with a headache :)
  155. # [21:27] <jgraham> Fair enough :)
  156. # [21:27] <jgraham> I'll review the canvas tests
  157. # [21:28] * jgraham will try anything to prevent random orange on OSX
  158. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> Not sure it'll help with that :/
  159. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> Unless they'd hit the (_manual_check || !_asserted) case in endTest
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  161. # [21:39] * gsnedders wonders when you give up and conclude the browser is random
  162. # [21:40] <AutomatedTester> gsnedders: jgraham doesnt give up... browsers do
  163. # [21:42] * gsnedders remembers a fair proportion of the random tests at Opera being, well, the browser
  164. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> Yeah
  165. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> In a sense, all random tests are due to randomness in the browser :)
  166. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> Or the OS
  167. # [21:43] <AutomatedTester> or the OS and the Browser
  168. # [21:43] <AutomatedTester> and gremlins
  169. # [21:43] <MikeSmith> AutomatedTester: I would really like to get a head count soon about the WG f2f at TPAC
  170. # [21:44] <AutomatedTester> MikeSmith: at least Mozillians
  171. # [21:44] <MikeSmith> AutomatedTester: do you think we are going to have more than 12 people?
  172. # [21:44] <AutomatedTester> 3 Mozillians
  173. # [21:44] <MikeSmith> I am not sure about the room we'll have
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  175. # [21:45] <MikeSmith> I think it may be a table for 12 people plus maybe chairs for 10 more people in the room around the outside of the table
  176. # [21:45] <jgraham> Well, it depends if you count if (Math.random() < 0.5) {pass} else {fail} ad being "randomness in the browser" or not
  177. # [21:45] <wilhelm> MikeSmith: That should be fine, I think.
  178. # [21:45] <MikeSmith> ah wilhelm
  179. # [21:45] <wilhelm> We'll be 11+1 for the F2F next week.
  180. # [21:46] <MikeSmith> wasn't sure if you were still on
  181. # [21:46] <MikeSmith> ok
  182. # [21:46] <gsnedders> wilhelm: go to bed
  183. # [21:46] <wilhelm> gsnedders: Way ahead of you. :P
  184. # [21:46] <wilhelm> Wait, that sounds wrong.
  185. # [21:46] <MikeSmith> wilhelm: I would expect we'll have more at meeting in Santa Clara than for a meeting in London
  186. # [21:46] * jgraham wonders who wilhelm's +1 is
  187. # [21:46] <MikeSmith> just in general
  188. # [21:46] <wilhelm> jgraham: You are.
  189. # [21:46] <jgraham> Awww
  190. # [21:47] <wilhelm> MikeSmith: Yeah. They'll have to sit at the back. We'll manage. (c:
  191. # [21:47] <wilhelm> We've been quite inclusive with the cheap seats at the back before.
  192. # [21:48] <wilhelm> MikeSmith: Thanks for fixing rooms for us. (c:
  193. # [21:48] <AutomatedTester> lemme ask a few people quickly
  194. # [21:49] <MikeSmith> wilhelm: yeah still working on it but I think I'll have it decided soon and I can get the registration form updated
  195. # [21:49] <MikeSmith> AutomatedTester: ok
  196. # [21:49] <wilhelm> \o/
  197. # [21:50] <AutomatedTester> wilhelm: how many people attended SF?
  198. # [21:50] <AutomatedTester> I think it will be around that
  199. # [21:50] <MikeSmith> yeah
  200. # [21:50] <AutomatedTester> MikeSmith: from a quick count I am at 11 already
  201. # [21:51] <MikeSmith> lemme check on that and see how many we had registered for SF at the time
  202. # [21:51] <AutomatedTester> if we include you then its 12
  203. # [21:53] <wilhelm> 10 in Boston.
  204. # [21:53] <wilhelm> 13 in SF.
  205. # [21:53] <AutomatedTester> if we can have a room for 12 with extra chairs, not necessarily at the table that will be fine
  206. # [21:53] <AutomatedTester> MikeSmith: ^
  207. # [21:53] <wilhelm> Agreed.
  208. # [21:54] <MikeSmith> ok
  209. # [21:54] <MikeSmith> so, good. I think we're covered, then
  210. # [21:54] <AutomatedTester> \o/
  211. # [21:55] <AutomatedTester> MikeSmith: when will we know for sure?
  212. # [21:56] <MikeSmith> AutomatedTester: by tomorrow I think
  213. # [21:56] <AutomatedTester> hazzah!
  214. # [21:56] <wilhelm> Purfect.
  215. # [21:56] <wilhelm> Then we'll have forced signups on Monday.
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  217. # [22:05] <MikeSmith> heh
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  220. # [23:16] <ato> AutomatedTester, wilhelm: We were 16 (including MikeSmith) in SF.
  221. # [23:16] <AutomatedTester> including or excluding jgriffin?
  222. # [23:16] <ato> But that was with four Mozillians, so that brings us down to 14.
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  224. # [23:17] <AutomatedTester> yea, there will only be 3 Mozillians
  225. # [23:17] <ato> Oh and it seems there's a duplicated name in the attendee list.
  226. # [23:17] <ato> So 13
  227. # [23:17] <ato> .
  228. # [23:17] <ato> We'll manage fine, I think.
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