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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jul 04 00:00:01 2014
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  21. # [05:10] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] xiaojunwu closed pull request #1088: Test the vibrate method with an invalid argument (master...submission/xiaojunwu/vibration-invalid-value) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1088
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  39. # [10:58] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] yunxiaoxie opened pull request #1093: Add more tests for FileReaderSync (master...yunxiaoxie/FileReaderSync) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1093
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  46. # [15:35] <AutomatedTester> darobin: can we make noIDLSort the default
  47. # [15:35] <darobin> AutomatedTester: you can just put that in your configuration
  48. # [15:35] <jgraham> Oh, I suppose I should actually read the webdriver spec
  49. # [15:35] <darobin> it's entirely up to you :)
  50. # [15:35] <darobin> noIDLSorting: true
  51. # [15:36] <Ms2ger> "Can we make an option the default?" "There's an option"
  52. # [15:36] <AutomatedTester> darobin: in the respecConfig block?
  53. # [15:36] <darobin> AutomatedTester: yeah
  54. # [15:36] <darobin> Ms2ger: I understood his question to mean something else, and I think I'm right :)
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  59. # [20:01] <ato> jgraham: Just to confirm wptrunner will ignore test types it doesn't know about in MANIFEST.json right?
  60. # [20:02] <jgraham> ato: Yeah
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  62. # [20:02] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] andreastt opened pull request #1094: Add new test type wdspec to manifest generator (master...ato/manifest_webdriver) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1094
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  64. # [20:03] <ato> ↑ Not great
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  66. # [21:11] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] andreastt opened pull request #1095: Move webdriver client to tools/webdriver (master...ato/wd_move) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1095
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  73. # [22:36] * jgraham wonders what WebDriver thinks it is specifying
  74. # [22:36] <jgraham> Because it seems somewhat confused
  75. # [22:38] <Ms2ger> That wouldn't be the first time
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  77. # [22:45] <jgraham> Well it doesn't specify the client API. Which seems reasonable since cross-langauge APIs don't really work. But it simultaneously says that the wire protocol is undefined and that you MUST implement the JSON protocol. If it's actually undefined then I'm not really sure that the spec offers any interop; it would just be a collection of features for remote automation that a UA would have to support.
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  81. # [22:56] <MikeSmith> jgraham: that's not a completely inaccurate description
  82. # [22:56] <MikeSmith> it's kind of an odd duck
  83. # [22:56] <MikeSmith> but it sort of follows from the nature of the thing
  84. # [23:00] <jgraham> Well I'm not sure it does
  85. # [23:00] <jgraham> If there's a specified wire protocol and set of commands then you have something interoperable
  86. # [23:01] <jgraham> If there isn't a specified wire protocol then you could have an implementation that required a specific client and talked a secret protocol
  87. # [23:02] <jgraham> In that case I don't know what the point is
  88. # [23:02] <AutomatedTester> the wire protocol is mandated
  89. # [23:03] <jgraham> AutomatedTester: OK, so then the right ffedback is "Although the encoding and transport mechanism is left undefined in this specification" is just a lie
  90. # [23:04] <AutomatedTester> that appears to have been left in by accident
  91. # [23:04] <AutomatedTester> we mandated it ~1 year ago
  92. # [23:05] <AutomatedTester> jgraham: yea, reading 2.6 it needs fixing
  93. # [23:05] <jgraham> OK
  94. # [23:06] <jgraham> That makes more sense
  95. # [23:06] * jgraham also isn't sure how much sense it makes to use webidl to define JSON messages
  96. # [23:07] <AutomatedTester> if there is webidl mistakes that 100% my incompetence :D
  97. # [23:08] <AutomatedTester> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/008/342/IHNIWIAD.jpg
  98. # [23:09] <Ms2ger> We know
  99. # [23:10] <AutomatedTester> :)
  100. # [23:10] <AutomatedTester> do I get marks for effort?
  101. # [23:18] <Ms2ger> AutomatedTester, you get a participation award
  102. # [23:19] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: is that an Open Badge?
  103. # [23:19] <Ms2ger> Ha
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  105. # [23:20] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: make me an open badge please
  106. # [23:20] <AutomatedTester> on that note though I am going to get some sleep
  107. # [23:20] <AutomatedTester> night
  108. # [23:21] <Ms2ger> Niht
  109. # [23:21] <Ms2ger> ght
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