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- # [05:01] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/27769f948f53...41543960c065
- # [05:01] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 0390613 Ms2ger: Move the data from interfaces.js into a separate JS file.
- # [05:01] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master d0da426 Ms2ger: fixup! Move the data from interfaces.js into a separate JS file.
- # [05:01] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 4154396 Michael[tm] Smith: Merge pull request #1208 from Ms2ger/elements...
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- # [11:03] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: have you looked at where we're at on testing coverage for DOM P&S?
- # [11:03] <Ms2ger> Terrible
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- # [11:10] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: didn't Travis or somebody say they would be contributing tests?
- # [11:10] <jgraham> I have a PR open but I haven't actually fixed any of the issues
- # [11:10] <Ms2ger> Did he?
- # [11:10] <MikeSmith> oh
- # [11:10] <Ms2ger> I haven't seen anything
- # [11:10] <Ms2ger> There's some random tests in the repo
- # [11:10] <jgraham> Partially because I built on top of someone else's tests for parts of the spec that I didn't care about :(
- # [11:11] <jgraham> Or maybe my PR is for HTML only
- # [11:11] * jgraham doesn't remember what the spec situation here is
- # [11:11] <jgraham> I seem to recall that Travis made incompatible changes compared to Hixie's version
- # [11:22] <MikeSmith> if I could get money to fund somebody good to write tests, I wonder who we could get
- # [11:22] <MikeSmith> I'd you guys can think of anybody, let me know
- # [11:23] <zcorpan_> P&S is something i want to pick up at some point, but not this year i think
- # [11:23] <Ms2ger> zcorpan? :)
- # [11:24] <Ms2ger> Sadly he's got a job alreay
- # [11:24] <Ms2ger> dy
- # [11:27] <jgraham> Yeah, I only really know of people that have jobs already.
- # [11:29] <Ms2ger> It almost seems like competent people can find jobs in our industry
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- # [11:36] <jgraham> With that in mind I just discovered that Ms2ger made 3x as many commits to w-p-t as anyone else
- # [11:37] <Ms2ger> Oh, good
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- # [11:43] <jgraham> Ms2ger: That was… not the right response :p
- # [11:44] <Ms2ger> :D
- # [11:44] <MikeSmith> heh
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- # [11:47] <MikeSmith> Yeah anyway I guess what we need it somebody who's really skilled but who's otherwise unemployable for some reason (crazy, attitude problems, whatever)
- # [11:48] <MikeSmith> that'd be the perfect candidate
- # [11:49] <MikeSmith> the problem is that the browser projects do actually employ people with those characteristics
- # [11:50] <MikeSmith> so the pool of free agents is unreasonably small
- # [11:50] <jgraham> I think Roy Fielding already has a job too
- # [11:52] <MikeSmith> Yeah, exactly. perfect example.
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- # [12:03] <Ms2ger> Looks like he's got a job too
- # [12:03] <MikeSmith> oh?
- # [12:03] <MikeSmith> where?
- # [12:03] <MikeSmith> I been wondering too
- # [12:03] <Ms2ger> http://noriginmedia.com/, according to linkedin
- # [12:04] <MikeSmith> looks interesting
- # [12:05] * Ms2ger wonders if darobin has made a decision yet
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- # [12:29] <Lachy_> Ms2ger, I'm working full time in front end web development.
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- # [12:30] <Lachy_> Unfortunately, I have too much responsibility and I'm not given any time to focus on specs at all.
- # [12:32] <MikeSmith> Hey Lachy_
- # [12:33] <Lachy_> hi
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- # [12:33] <MikeSmith> hope it's fun and interesting work. it's nice to be busy if it's interesting work
- # [12:36] <Lachy> It is. I do the web front end for video streaming apps, primarily for mobile devices.
- # [12:42] <MikeSmith> nice
- # [12:44] <MikeSmith> Lachy: I guess you're settled into Norway long-term now?
- # [12:44] <Ms2ger> Except for the wedding, or so it seems
- # [12:45] <Ms2ger> Wait, wat
- # [12:45] <Lachy> We have a plan to move to Australia some time after the wedding.
- # [12:45] <Ms2ger> What's app-uri/resources/testharness.js in wpt?
- # [12:47] <jgraham> That sounds bad
- # [12:47] <jgraham> Not moving to Australia
- # [12:47] <jgraham> Although I wouldn't do that either ;)
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- # [12:50] <Ms2ger> On another note
- # [12:50] <Ms2ger> It appears that making Node.nodeValue readonly would not fail any test in wpt
- # [12:51] <Ms2ger> Except the idlharness test
- # [12:53] <jgraham> If only the testsuite took submissions so you could fix that
- # [12:54] <Ms2ger> Didn't I say I quit that? ;)
- # [12:54] <Ms2ger> Trouble is, I'd write ten lines of test, and then zcorpan_ would review
- # [12:54] <jgraham> And then you would have to write 90 more lines?
- # [12:55] <Ms2ger> I see you've worked with zcorpan_ before
- # [12:56] <zcorpan_> :-S
- # [12:57] <Ms2ger> zcorpan_, we love you for it, but it can be somewhat frustrating if you're on the receiving side :)
- # [13:01] <jgraham> zcorpan_: Any idea if I can tell which web-platform-tests are being run against Blink?
- # [13:01] <ato> odinho: ↑
- # [13:02] <odinho> I see an arrow.
- # [13:02] <ato> Do you know the answer to that question (-:
- # [13:02] <Ms2ger> I wonder if the SVG tests are ever going to materialize in wpt
- # [13:03] <odinho> At Opera we've not made a Goth client for WPT yet.
- # [13:03] <Ms2ger> A goth client...
- # [13:03] <Ms2ger> Sounds like something gsnedders might invent
- # [13:03] <odinho> So we don't run Blink tests automatically. WebTech team use Google's test infrastructure.
- # [13:03] <jgraham> Named after gsnedders
- # [13:03] <ato> Opera's test infrastructure's called Goth.
- # [13:04] <ato> Aptly named.
- # [13:04] <jgraham> Yeah, so I was really wondering which tests the Google people are running
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- # [13:04] <odinho> Yeah. «I don't know» is the real answer :D:D:D:D
- # [13:05] <jgraham> But I don't think there are any Google people that are a) here and b) likely to know
- # [13:05] <jgraham> Ms2ger: So apparently I am going to talk tests to the SVG WG on Tuesday
- # [13:05] <zcorpan_> jgraham: maybe http://www.chromium.org/blink/importing-the-w3c-tests
- # [13:05] <Ms2ger> Hear, hear
- # [13:05] * jgraham listens
- # [13:06] * Ms2ger finds some nodeValue tests
- # [13:06] <Ms2ger> These tests also run in Mozilla 0.99.
- # [13:06] <Ms2ger> These tests do not run in MSIE 5.0; I have not yet diagnosed the problem.
- # [13:08] <jgraham> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch?q=web-platform-tests#chromium/src/third_party/WebKit/LayoutTests/w3c/web-platform-tests/&q=web-platform-tests&sq=package:chromium <- is that it?
- # [13:10] <Ms2ger> I wonder which poor soul ended up writing 1024 xpath tests
- # [13:17] * Ms2ger also wonders what is/was behind http://web.intern.opera.no
- # [13:19] <odinho> Ms2ger: doesn't go anywhere to me
- # [13:20] <ato> odinho: I hope someone register the .osa TLD soon (=
- # [13:23] <jgraham> If I somehow won a lottery without entering I might do that for laughs. Or, if I was feeling evil, in order to sell back to Opera at a profit ;)
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- # [13:38] <odinho> ^_^
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- # [13:44] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #1210: Add tests for Node.nodeValue. (master...nodeValue) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1210
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- # [14:08] <MikeSmith> somebody reviewing that?
- # [14:08] <Ms2ger> You!
- # [14:09] <jgraham> Me
- # [14:09] <MikeSmith> k
- # [14:10] * MikeSmith looks to see if there's other stuff from today waiting on review
- # [14:12] <Ms2ger> There's definitely lots of old stuff :)
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- # [14:14] <MikeSmith> old stuff is boring
- # [14:15] <Ms2ger> You could make it exciting again!
- # [14:16] <jgraham> Dammit, now I am trying to remember how you express the idea that the proability that a particular PR is reviewed in some time interval is strongly decreasing with the amount of time that it has already waited for review
- # [14:16] <MikeSmith> ...
- # [14:16] <MikeSmith> mathematically?
- # [14:17] <jgraham> Well yeah
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- # [14:21] <MikeSmith> graphically you could just change the legends on http://www.webmm.ahrq.gov/media/cases/images/case155_fig1.gif
- # [14:21] <MikeSmith> just change "survival" to "review" and "minutes" to "weeks" or "months"
- # [14:21] <MikeSmith> or years
- # [14:23] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: me wondering what https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1118 is still waiting on. bholley says he addressed all review comments
- # [14:23] <Ms2ger> jgraham, the test I copied from reset nodeValue to the original, yes; not sure if there's a point in this context
- # [14:23] <Ms2ger> MikeSmith, me to check if bholley's claim is truthful
- # [14:23] <MikeSmith> ok
- # [14:25] <MikeSmith> I wish github gave me a way to filter out particular labels (instead of needing to filter them in)
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- # [15:21] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/41543960c065...ef8fa71ff3e9
- # [15:21] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 65cb689 Ms2ger: Add tests for Node.nodeValue....
- # [15:21] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master ef8fa71 Ms2ger: Merge pull request #1210 from Ms2ger/nodeValue...
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- # [16:15] <ato> Is serve.py logging recorded anywhere?
- # [16:16] <ato> I'm running it through wptrunner and need access to some debug output.
- # [16:16] <plh> as far as I know, the log appears in standard output
- # [16:16] <plh> you could redirect it into a file if you need to
- # [16:17] <Ms2ger> Not through wptrunner, I guess
- # [16:18] <ato> I can see stdout from wptrunner and other programs, but not serve.py.
- # [16:18] <Ms2ger> jgraham, ^
- # [16:19] <jgraham> Yeah it gets swallowed in that case :|
- # [16:21] <jgraham> I suspect it's mozlog and stdlib logging not getting on
- # [16:22] <jgraham> Oh, maybe you just need a logging.basicConfig() call somewhere
- # [16:27] <ato> In serve.py?
- # [16:28] <jgraham> Hmm, actually I guess that is being called
- # [16:28] <jgraham> So: not sure
- # [16:29] <jgraham> I'll have a look in a bit; have to go out for a while now
- # [16:29] <ato> Is there a way to not have wptrunner spawn serve.py then?
- # [16:29] <ato> Okay, thanks.
- # [16:29] <jgraham> You could comment that line out
- # [16:30] <jgraham> In wptrunner.py the serve.start
- # [16:31] <ato> Thanks!
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- # [19:16] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #1211: Attributes are back in fashion. (master...the-return-of-the-attr) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1211
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- # [19:16] <Ms2ger> Sad r?
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- # [22:02] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #1211: Attributes are back in fashion. (master...the-return-of-the-attr) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1211
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- # [22:13] <zcorpan_> plh: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/2426
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