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  19. # [01:01] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] andreastt closed pull request #51: Test for self.result_data in ServoTestharnessExecutor. (master...fix-timeout) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/51
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  22. # [01:01] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] andreastt pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/dddc7e2bc60fe02ea8b668b4876b8b535005dcef
  23. # [01:01] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/master dddc7e2 Andreas Tolfsen: Merge pull request #51 from w3c/fix-timeout...
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  93. # [13:29] <zcorpan> r? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/3063
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  108. # [14:58] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #1347: event.ports in a dedicated worker should be empty array (master...worker-ports-null) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1347
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  110. # [15:01] <jgraham> Done
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  113. # [15:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] darobin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/a0e96eb5b4523c6023bd71855abd44d085721d59
  114. # [15:13] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master a0e96eb Robin Berjon: Broken link to wptrunner...
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  118. # [15:38] <darobin> jgraham: is there an easy way to install all the dependencies of serve.py? cyril just bumped against one while trying to run it and I wonder if there's a way to just get all of them at once
  119. # [15:39] <jgraham> The only dependency that isn't in a submodule is html5lib, and that's just to generate the test manifest, I think
  120. # [15:39] <jgraham> So my answer is something like "add html5lib as a submodule"
  121. # [15:39] <ato> You need to init and update the submodules though.
  122. # [15:40] <jgraham> Yeah, maybe serve.py could handle imports failing by trying |git submodule update --init --recursive|
  123. # [15:42] <gsnedders> jgraham: shouldn't we be having a specific revision of html5lib in the manifest given there are more breaking changes coming back 1.0?
  124. # [15:43] <jgraham> gsnedders: I couldn't parse that sentence
  125. # [15:43] <jgraham> But submodules pin to a specific commit
  126. # [15:43] <darobin> ok, so it's just a pip install thing — ta
  127. # [15:44] <darobin> cyril: you can just pip install html5lib and things should just work
  128. # [15:44] <darobin> jgraham: we need to do something to make the "Updating and loading test manifest" work better
  129. # [15:46] <jgraham> darobin: So people keep saying :)
  130. # [15:47] <darobin> jgraham: I didn't see that change go through, but it's been the reason for the past n issues people have brought to me
  131. # [15:47] <darobin> I guess part of it is UI; I'll dig into that
  132. # [15:47] <jgraham> Is n 1? :p
  133. # [15:47] <darobin> I'd love to tell you that it's 20, but I'm not sure we have that many interested parties :)
  134. # [15:48] <darobin> but it's more than 1
  135. # [15:48] <darobin> which I guess is good news!
  136. # [15:48] <jgraham> So we can add html5lib as a submodule. That makes sense because it's an actual dependency now and that's how we're handling dependencies, to avoid people having to understand pop
  137. # [15:48] <jgraham> *pip
  138. # [15:48] <jgraham> For w3c-test.org we should update the MANIFEST.json on sync
  139. # [15:49] <darobin> yeah
  140. # [15:49] <jgraham> Locally I don't really know what would work better
  141. # [15:49] <darobin> especially since the package manager situation with python is... interesting
  142. # [15:49] <darobin> locally it needs to get some feedback to the UI
  143. # [15:49] <jgraham> The package manager situation with python is "use pip"
  144. # [15:50] <darobin> right now it hangs with a message
  145. # [15:50] <darobin> which you need to install using easy_install
  146. # [15:50] <darobin> and then someone with hipster glasses will come and preach something cryptic about virtualenv
  147. # [15:50] <jgraham> Right, it's not really clear how to provide that feedback though.
  148. # [15:50] <darobin> then you wonder why you're not using Python 3...
  149. # [15:50] <darobin> etc.
  150. # [15:50] <jgraham> I think I would describe my glasses as "lost" rather than "hipster"
  151. # [15:51] <darobin> the generator knows that it's still running, it could ping back with, I don't know, the number of entries
  152. # [15:51] <darobin> anything that gives the user the impression that the damn thing isn't dead
  153. # [15:51] <darobin> lol
  154. # [15:52] <jgraham> Yeah, so I guess that the manifest.py script could be taught to run in a background thread and provide progress updates which, for the local runner, get sent to the page somehow
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  156. # [15:59] <cyril> ok I'm a bit lost here
  157. # [15:59] <cyril> I had Python 2.7
  158. # [15:59] <cyril> which does not have pip
  159. # [15:59] <cyril> nor easy_install
  160. # [15:59] <cyril> I don't know much about Python
  161. # [16:00] <cyril> so I thought I'd Install Python 3.4 which has pip and easy_install
  162. # [16:00] <darobin> oh no....
  163. # [16:00] <cyril> but python serve.py complains about urllib2
  164. # [16:00] <darobin> go back to 2.7
  165. # [16:00] <cyril> sure I can
  166. # [16:01] <darobin> I don't know what the Python people were thinking, but they really fucked up the transition to 3
  167. # [16:01] <cyril> but how do I install html5lib then ?
  168. # [16:01] <darobin> nothing works with 3, except sciency stuff that requires it
  169. # [16:01] <jgraham> "nothing works with 3" isn't true, but none of our stuff does
  170. # [16:01] <jgraham> You need 2.7
  171. # [16:02] <darobin> well, nothing I've tried recently
  172. # [16:02] <jgraham> Install pip using your os package manager if possible
  173. # [16:02] <darobin> e.g. Bikeshed doesn't work either
  174. # [16:02] <jgraham> html5lib does
  175. # [16:02] <darobin> that's what I said, sciency stuff :)
  176. # [16:02] <cyril> I'm running windows
  177. # [16:02] <cyril> Can I use the pip installed with Python 3.4 ? and still use Python 2.7 ?
  178. # [16:03] <darobin> probably not
  179. # [16:03] <cyril> ok I've found http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/starting/install/win/
  180. # [16:03] <cyril> will try
  181. # [16:07] <jgraham> https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/installing.html
  182. # [16:07] <cyril> ok the link I gave above gave me the right instructions I think
  183. # [16:08] <cyril> I have python2.7, with easy_install, with pip, with virtualenv even
  184. # [16:08] <jgraham> Great
  185. # [16:08] <cyril> and I was able to install html5lib
  186. # [16:08] <cyril> and now the runner runs locally! wouhou !
  187. # [16:08] <jgraham> Great. Sorry for the inconvenience
  188. # [16:10] <cyril> well, nothing's perfect don't worry
  189. # [16:10] <cyril> and there were people on the channel
  190. # [16:10] <cyril> so that's fine
  191. # [16:10] <cyril> now I'm able to run the /media-source tests in IE, the progress bar doesn't get stuck at 0% like w3c-test.org
  192. # [16:10] <darobin> :)
  193. # [16:11] <cyril> but then IE crashes on the test :(
  194. # [16:11] <darobin> ah, I'm afraid that's a problem we can't fix
  195. # [16:11] <cyril> sure
  196. # [16:11] <jgraham> Binary patching ftw
  197. # [16:11] <jgraham> ;)
  198. # [16:11] <darobin> heh
  199. # [16:11] <darobin> I know it has happened to Opera, I wonder if it has happened to IE too
  200. # [16:12] <cyril> "Binary patching ftw" I don't get it ...
  201. # [16:13] <darobin> cyril: you could binary-patch IE to fix it
  202. # [16:13] <darobin> (it can be done)
  203. # [16:13] <darobin> but it's considered... hard
  204. # [16:13] <cyril> it can be done, but I'm not going to do it for sure !
  205. # [16:13] <cyril> I'm just trying to produce a f***g report for MSE and it's going to have lots of fails for IE
  206. # [16:14] <cyril> that will make them fix it maybe
  207. # [16:16] <gsnedders> darobin: everyone who binary patched Opera got hired, pretty much
  208. # [16:17] <darobin> gsnedders: I know :)
  209. # [16:17] <jgraham> http://web.archive.org/web/20140217164009/http://my.opera.com/d.i.z./blog/2008/05/22/a-road-to-working-xpath
  210. # [16:17] <darobin> cyril: yeah, that's not your problem — it'll show up as a lot of TIMEOUTs
  211. # [16:17] <jgraham> That took a while to find
  212. # [16:19] <darobin> yeah, that's the example I recalled I think
  213. # [16:19] <darobin> pretty awesome
  214. # [16:30] <MikeSmith> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
  215. # [16:30] <MikeSmith> 17984 root 20 0 3089m 444m 2868 S 99.4 44.5 2252:10 python
  216. # [16:30] <MikeSmith> is the situation once again on w3c-test.org
  217. # [16:31] <jgraham> MikeSmith: gdb
  218. # [16:31] <MikeSmith> yeah
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  221. # [16:32] <MikeSmith> except it's 12:30 am on a Friday night for me and I think the gdb docs recommend this as not being the optimal time/state for a debugging session
  222. # [16:33] <jgraham> Would it be possible to at least take a py-bt
  223. # [16:33] * MikeSmith nevertheless throws caution to the wind
  224. # [16:33] <MikeSmith> jgraham: yeah will try right now
  225. # [16:34] <darobin> I strongly suspect that the culprit is the manifest generator
  226. # [16:34] <darobin> we were talking with cyril earlier, he triggered the manifest thing and then it was all stuck
  227. # [16:35] <jgraham> It could be that's it's taking too long and the request times out and then something gets stuck because no one wants the response
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  229. # [16:35] <jgraham> But it's not clear that ought to happen
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  231. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> jgraham, did you see the bug I filed about item_types?
  232. # [16:39] <jgraham> Ms2ger: No
  233. # [16:40] <Ms2ger> jgraham, https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/issues/46
  234. # [16:41] <jgraham> Ms2ger: OK
  235. # [16:41] <MikeSmith> 274 threads
  236. # [16:42] <MikeSmith> it seems to be waiting on some lock
  237. # [16:43] <MikeSmith> >246 self._wait_semaphore.acquire(True, timeout)
  238. # [16:43] <jgraham> There must be at least one thread that isn't or nothing would be spinning the cpu
  239. # [16:43] <MikeSmith> will post a gist
  240. # [16:43] <cyril> ok, I have now json files for media-source for IE11, Fx36, Ch41. In the pull request, should I put also the files generated by wptreport ? or will they be generated automatically at some point ?
  241. # [16:44] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Thanks
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  244. # [16:45] <darobin> cyril: no, please include the wptreport files
  245. # [16:45] <darobin> someday we'll autogenerate the reports, but right now we don't
  246. # [16:46] <darobin> cyril: and thanks for jumping through all these hoops! the positive side is that now that you're familiar with WPT you can come help write/review some tests :)
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  249. # [16:46] <Ms2ger> darobin, I heard "you can do something useful" :)
  250. # [16:46] <cyril> darobin: I still need to get used to Critic (I read the topic ...)
  251. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/sideshowbarker/bd95579eaef33418c985/raw/0a49def9c66e628ecba4db8452da983a98e88545/gistfile1.txt
  252. # [16:48] <MikeSmith> jgraham: ↑
  253. # [16:50] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Thanks
  254. # [16:51] <jgraham> I have some meetings now, but I'll look in a bit
  255. # [16:51] <cyril> PR done
  256. # [16:51] <MikeSmith> welld now the process seems to have killed itself so I can't debug any more anyway
  257. # [16:51] * MikeSmith restarts wptserve
  258. # [16:52] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Oh, that's actually not very useful, it's just saying that the thread that spawned the server is waiting for the server to finish running
  259. # [16:52] <MikeSmith> yeah
  260. # [16:53] <MikeSmith> but that's all I got :(
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  262. # [16:54] <MikeSmith> but the good news is that it will eventually wedge itself again before too long, so we'll soon have another opportunity to investigate further
  263. # [16:54] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Heh
  264. # [16:54] <jgraham> Thanks for looking
  265. # [16:55] <MikeSmith> np
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  267. # [17:03] <darobin> Ms2ger: saw the ping, will get to it when I can :)
  268. # [17:04] <Ms2ger> <3
  269. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> jgraham, can I get a pypi release, btw?
  270. # [17:17] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Sure, waht to make one?
  271. # [17:18] <Ms2ger> jgraham, hmm?
  272. # [17:18] <jgraham> Oh, I guess you can't
  273. # [17:18] <jgraham> We should fix that
  274. # [17:20] <Ms2ger> I won't insist on that :)
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  319. # [21:31] -gitbot:#testing- [testharness.js] jgraham closed pull request #82: Support testing in a service worker (master...support-testing-in-a-service-worker) https://github.com/w3c/testharness.js/pull/82
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