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  7. # [00:47] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] inexorabletash opened pull request #1414: Indexed DB: Add Event interface stub (master...inexorabletash/idb-event-stub) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1414
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  18. # [02:44] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] chmanchester opened pull request #58: Remove assertion about the count of open windows pending fix to marionet... (master...winhandles) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/58
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  26. # [03:44] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: that happens sometimes when the sync fails; dunno why
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  37. # [09:33] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: intredasting
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  46. # [11:32] <ato> What kind of sync?
  47. # [11:36] <jgraham> GitHub sync
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  50. # [12:35] <MikeSmith> does anybody remember reviewing http://www.w3c-test.org/webmessaging/event.origin.sub.htm
  51. # [12:35] <MikeSmith> it seems like that must have gone in without review
  52. # [12:36] <MikeSmith> if you look at the source
  53. # [12:37] <MikeSmith> (also wondering why that didn't get changed in teh PR that substituted all the hard-coded references to w3c-test.org)
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  55. # [12:37] <MikeSmith> and the rest of those webmessaging tests look like kind of a mess
  56. # [12:46] <artb> MikeSmith, when you say the "the rest of", are you referring to the test files in http://w3c.github.io/test-results/webmessaging/less-than-2.html ?
  57. # [12:46] <MikeSmith> artb: yup
  58. # [12:46] <artb> I haven't looked into them yet
  59. # [12:47] <artb> (still looking for a Test Facilitator for webmessaging :-()
  60. # [12:47] <darobin> MikeSmith: it depends on when it was integrated and reviewed, some of the early things went in with a much lower bar because we didn't have agreed-upon rules or anything
  61. # [12:48] <darobin> and it's quite possible that this was part of the initial import
  62. # [12:48] <xiaoqian> Should we update the test suite before moving to PR?
  63. # [12:48] <artb> yes, definitely xiaoqian!
  64. # [12:49] <MikeSmith> darobin: yeah that seems likely
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  66. # [12:50] <artb> xiaoqian, webmessaging is actually quite close but we need some type of "story" for each file in <2 [story for TimBL aks Ralph ;-)]
  67. # [12:50] <artb> s/aks/aka/
  68. # [12:51] <xiaoqian> artb, I see
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  70. # [12:55] <MikeSmith> (ah nm about the hard-coded thing at least; I was looking at the post-substition file)
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  72. # [13:14] <Ms2ger> I'm reviewing zcorpan's workers PR
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  74. # [13:31] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker created sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/744fb6e93212
  75. # [13:31] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix 744fb6e Michael[tm] Smith: Un-break webmessaging origin comparison.
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  78. # [13:31] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker opened pull request #1416: Un-break webmessaging origin comparison. (master...sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1416
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  80. # [13:34] <MikeSmith> sigh
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  82. # [13:34] <MikeSmith> sync.py on w3c-test.org not working at all again
  83. # [13:34] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, you finally got tired of MS's workers tests? :)
  84. # [13:35] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: yes
  85. # [13:35] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: this is just the first stage
  86. # [13:36] <Ms2ger> I should try to resurrect my workers-tests-without-html-file code
  87. # [13:38] <Ms2ger> Bah
  88. # [13:38] <Ms2ger> The one bug I find... "One or more of the lines you are commenting are modified by a later commit in this review."
  89. # [13:39] <zcorpan> :-)
  90. # [13:41] <Ms2ger> var t2 = async_test(... Test 3 ...)
  91. # [13:44] <Ms2ger> Ooh, now I did find one :)
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  98. # [14:06] <jgraham> Note that we have the fancy workers stuff in th.js now, if you need it
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  108. # [15:04] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker closed pull request #1416: Un-break webmessaging origin comparison. (master...sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1416
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  111. # [15:04] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker deleted sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix at 744fb6e: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/744fb6e
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  114. # [15:05] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker created sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/744fb6e93212
  115. # [15:05] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix 744fb6e Michael[tm] Smith: Un-break webmessaging origin comparison.
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  118. # [15:06] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker opened pull request #1417: Un-break webmessaging origin comparison. (master...sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1417
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  124. # [15:45] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker pushed 1 new commit to sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/17b9847d870f2a8e0ae136994a6f069fd554aa78
  125. # [15:45] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix 17b9847 Michael[tm] Smith: Updated fix.
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  127. # [15:46] <MikeSmith> xiaoqian: http://w3c-test.org/submissions/1417/webmessaging/event.origin.sub.htm
  128. # [15:46] <MikeSmith> not sure whether this is best way to fix it or not
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  136. # [17:45] <timeless> MikeSmith: ping
  137. # [17:45] <timeless> artb: ping
  138. # [17:45] <timeless> are you guys familiar w/ "Disposition of Comments" and whatever requirements may exist for it?
  139. # [17:46] <timeless> i've recently tried sending "comments" using github pull requests
  140. # [17:46] <timeless> but it occurs to me that because I rebase my pull requests, and thus drop things from them, someone who goes back later won't actually be able to see what my comments were
  141. # [17:46] <timeless> i'm wondering if the process expects people to be able to review the comments that were provided
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  145. # [17:51] <MikeSmith> timeless: yeah ideally the original comments should persist in some publicly accessible resource where anybody can independently review them
  146. # [17:51] <MikeSmith> timeless: but the process doesn't require that
  147. # [17:52] <MikeSmith> the process only requires that the WG which receives the comments must provide a report of all the comments and the resolution of each comment
  148. # [17:53] <timeless> hrm, but if the "comments" disappear
  149. # [17:53] <timeless> then the WG can't actually provide that report
  150. # [17:53] <timeless> which means ... i'm basically hurting them by rebasing/whatever
  151. # [17:54] <timeless> so, i guess i really need to figure out how to recover my older git commits
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  153. # [17:56] <artb> timeless, I haven't participated in any LC comments that were submitted via GH.
  154. # [17:56] <artb> all of the LCs for my WGs have explicitly said to send comments to some public-* list
  155. # [17:57] * timeless nods
  156. # [17:57] <timeless> this is sort of bleeding edge
  157. # [17:59] <timeless> my problem is that i tend to produce 50-100 comments
  158. # [17:59] <timeless> and people come back and say "could you please split these up into multiple emails?"
  159. # [17:59] <timeless> which is really really frustrating
  160. # [18:00] <artb> perhaps you could submit a PR and Cc the spec's comment list (with the PR's URL)
  161. # [18:00] <timeless> so i'm trying to do git/hg branches w/ comments as individual commits
  162. # [18:00] <timeless> artb: the trick i think is to make two branches
  163. # [18:00] <timeless> one for "the pull request", and one for "what the pull request was"
  164. # [18:00] <timeless> then each time i rebase, create a new branch for "what the pull request was on Date-x"
  165. # [18:00] <timeless> then rebase "the pull request"
  166. # [18:00] <timeless> and then push the new branch
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  170. # [18:06] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker pushed 1 new commit to sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/f8bc276e30c6fe941b9f505f0d2b79d20ce58e35
  171. # [18:06] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix f8bc276 Michael[tm] Smith: More fixes to webmessaging origin comparison.
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  173. # [18:12] <MikeSmith> tests in http://w3c-test.org/submissions/1417/webmessaging/ have fixes for the first 3 failures listed in http://w3c.github.io/test-results/webmessaging/less-than-2.html
  174. # [18:13] <MikeSmith> artb: ↑
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  176. # [18:14] <MikeSmith> artb: I attempted to fix http://w3c-test.org/submissions/1417/webmessaging/postMessage_origin_mismatch_xorigin.sub.htm too but somehow regressed it into a timeout
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  179. # [18:15] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk created use-new-for-ArrayBuffer (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/a2cf7523ee92
  180. # [18:15] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/use-new-for-ArrayBuffer a2cf752 Anne van Kesteren: minor fix to single-byte-encoder.html...
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  183. # [18:16] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk opened pull request #1419: minor fix to single-byte-encoder.html (master...use-new-for-ArrayBuffer) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1419
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  185. # [18:16] <MikeSmith> artb: oops I see now what I did
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  188. # [18:33] <artb> MikeSmith, thanks!
  189. # [18:33] <artb> oh wait ;)
  190. # [18:34] <timeless> dom: ^^ something we should think about
  191. # [18:34] <timeless> i think i've rescued my old branches from my repo, maybe
  192. # [18:34] <timeless> actually, i'm not at all sure :(
  193. # [18:35] <dom> "something", you means management of comments as pull requests and their accountability?
  194. # [18:36] <Ms2ger> Who's rebasing what?
  195. # [18:37] <timeless> dom: yeah
  196. # [18:37] <timeless> basically if people try to use my model of comments as pull requests, then someone (probably the WG)
  197. # [18:37] <timeless> needs to keep branches for the comments as they come in
  198. # [18:38] <timeless> so that if they're later rebased, or dropped, or the source repository deleted, you still have the comments
  199. # [18:38] <timeless> and can report what you did
  200. # [18:38] <timeless> Ms2ger: i have https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main/pull/48
  201. # [18:38] <timeless> which i started at a certain time X
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  203. # [18:38] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker closed pull request #1419: minor fix to single-byte-encoder.html (master...use-new-for-ArrayBuffer) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1419
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  206. # [18:38] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/c311e184bb55dd19712036cf8d6e3377739be315
  207. # [18:38] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master c311e18 Michael[tm] Smith: Merge pull request #1419 from w3c/use-new-for-ArrayBuffer...
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  209. # [18:38] <Ms2ger> Oh, for specs
  210. # [18:38] <timeless> every now and then, i've rebased it, which may involve dropped patches (conflicts, already fixed, ...)
  211. # [18:38] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a bad idea
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  213. # [18:38] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker deleted use-new-for-ArrayBuffer at a2cf752: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/a2cf752
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  215. # [18:38] <timeless> well...
  216. # [18:39] <timeless> sending an email w/ 100 suggestions isn't a great idea either
  217. # [18:39] <timeless> there aren't any good ways to handle large numbers of anything
  218. # [18:39] <timeless> but clearly, the approach i took fails some of the accountability requirements
  219. # [18:40] * timeless wonders if there's a tool that can compare two git changesets to see if they're the same...
  220. # [18:41] <Ms2ger> hash(x) == hash(y) ;)
  221. # [18:42] <timeless> no no no no no
  222. # [18:42] <timeless> basically, i want to know if the change a given changeset is applying is relatively equivalent to the change another changeset is applying
  223. # [18:42] <jgraham> Some other definition of "the same" then :p
  224. # [18:42] <timeless> imagine: a->b->c; a->c
  225. # [18:43] <timeless> where c was the same exact patch applied cleanly at two different times (a, and b)
  226. # [18:43] <jgraham> So c'
  227. # [18:43] <timeless> yes
  228. # [18:43] <timeless> and i want a tool that lets me compare c and c' and see "yeah, these are the same"
  229. # [18:43] <jgraham> Which in general can be arbitarily different from c
  230. # [18:44] <timeless> basically, if someone is doing a rebase of "c" (probably from a->c to a->b->c'), i want a way to review that change (c') and determine if it did what i thought "c" did
  231. # [18:45] <jgraham> But it seems like you should be able to rig something up that uses git show to extract the bits of the patch that you expect to be the same
  232. # [18:45] <timeless> yeah, it does, doesn't it? :)
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  234. # [18:45] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sideshowbarker pushed 1 new commit to sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/4ebbe74165f5f212df416e8421cd52e6bd30fdc7
  235. # [18:45] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sideshowbarker/webmessaging-origin-fix 4ebbe74 Michael[tm] Smith: Un-regress one webmessaging origin comparison.
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  237. # [18:45] <timeless> helpwanted :/
  238. # [18:45] <timeless> it actually seems like it should be pretty easy to do too...
  239. # [18:45] <jgraham> Oh, if you are doing code review your code review tool should handle that
  240. # [18:46] <jgraham> (it probably doesn't, but most code review tools suck)
  241. # [18:46] <timeless> i haven't seen a remotely decent code review tool in over a decade
  242. # [18:46] <timeless> but yes, "a decent code review tool SHOULD do this"
  243. # [18:46] <timeless> or "SHOULD be able to do this"
  244. # [18:47] <MikeSmith> artb: http://w3c-test.org/submissions/1417/webmessaging/postMessage_origin_mismatch_xorigin.sub.htm is fixed now too, so all of the first 4 tests in http://w3c.github.io/test-results/webmessaging/less-than-2.html should drop off once that PR gets merged
  245. # [18:55] <MikeSmith> xiaoqian: ↑
  246. # [18:55] <MikeSmith> St
  247. # [19:10] <artb> MikeSmith, that's great. TY!
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  249. # [19:33] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham closed pull request #58: Remove assertion about the count of open windows pending fix to marionet... (master...winhandles) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/58
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  252. # [19:33] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/compare/875c860154dd...d3b34f7d8801
  253. # [19:33] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/master 97a13c8 Chris Manchester: Remove assertion about the count of open windows pending fix to marionette.
  254. # [19:33] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/master d3b34f7 jgraham: Merge pull request #58 from chmanchester/winhandles...
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