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  1. # Session Start: Mon Dec 15 00:00:00 2014
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  8. # [03:24] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] isairz opened pull request #1466: Fix error name 'PermissionDeniedError' (master...mediastream) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1466
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  51. # [11:42] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/sync_restart: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/64dfadc22b207dd2c114c96beff49590dcbda4ae
  52. # [11:42] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/sync_restart 64dfadc James Graham: fixup! Rewrite update algorithm to be restartable and extensible.
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  63. # [12:43] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan opened pull request #1467: Sync unitless length quirk with ... (master...unitless-length-whitelist) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1467
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  66. # [12:49] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan opened pull request #1468: Tweak how quirks tests are set up to work better in gecko (master...quirks-onload-tweak) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1468
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  69. # [12:56] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan opened pull request #1469: Make quirks reftests actually link to the reference (master...quirks-reftest) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1469
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  71. # [12:57] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: r? ^
  72. # [13:01] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, what's the Gecko issue?
  73. # [13:01] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: i think something about about:blank loading after the document.write
  74. # [13:01] <Ms2ger> Ah, lovely
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  76. # [13:03] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #1468: Tweak how quirks tests are set up to work better in gecko (master...quirks-onload-tweak) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1468
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  78. # [13:03] <Ms2ger> Going to leave #1467 alone
  79. # [13:04] <ted_> is there a known issue on the test runner on w3c-test.org getting stuck at "Updating and loading test manifest"?
  80. # [13:05] <jgraham> ted_: It can take a while. It may also hang the server sometimes. We haven't done too well at debugging that
  81. # [13:05] * jgraham wonders where the dependnecies for running the CSS WG test script are
  82. # [13:09] <jgraham> Oh interesting
  83. # [13:09] <darobin> ted_: it certainly is a known issue
  84. # [13:09] <jgraham> They run their own hg server and you only get the build dependencies if you pull from there
  85. # [13:10] <jgraham> This is… displeasing
  86. # [13:10] <ted_> jgraham: fun
  87. # [13:10] <ted_> i can't actually seem to get it to work
  88. # [13:10] <ted_> feels like this would be better deployed as a commit hook that generated the manifest when it published the web site
  89. # [13:10] <ted_> but i'm just spitballing
  90. # [13:11] <jgraham> ted_: Yeah it would
  91. # [13:11] <darobin> ted_: I think everyone agrees with that, it's just a matter of someone getting the cycles
  92. # [13:11] <ted_> gotcha
  93. # [13:12] <jgraham> Basically it requries someone in the set (MikeSmith, darobin, dom) to implement it
  94. # [13:12] * Ms2ger voluntells ted_
  95. # [13:12] <ted_> ha ha
  96. # [13:12] <darobin> that's a mutable set
  97. # [13:12] <darobin> jgraham: do you recall where the code that does the syncing is? I can't seem to see a repo for it
  98. # [13:12] <jgraham> You mean people can leave, but not enter? ;)
  99. # [13:13] <ted_> i suspect in the time it would take for someone to teach me about the existing setup they could just fix it
  100. # [13:13] <darobin> sadly, that's probably true
  101. # [13:13] <darobin> that said, teaching you would be more costly this once, but save over time :)
  102. # [13:14] <jgraham> darobin: The original code was https://github.com/jgraham/github_sync but I think dom changed it some
  103. # [13:14] <darobin> ah, hidden under a user
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  105. # [13:14] <darobin> dom: do you know if that code is still what's being used?
  106. # [13:14] <ted_> darobin: you assume i have buckets of free time here ;-)
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  108. # [13:15] <darobin> ted_: no, I just assume you would *naturally* make time for such a vital project ;)
  109. # [13:15] <darobin> that, and my Bambi eyes impression
  110. # [13:17] <ted_> hah
  111. # [13:18] <ted_> if you load http://w3c-test.org/tools/runner/index.html, put /gamepad in the test path and click start
  112. # [13:18] <ted_> does that work for anyone?
  113. # [13:18] <tripu> 0 tests for me, ted_
  114. # [13:20] <ted_> hum
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  116. # [13:20] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #1469: Make quirks reftests actually link to the reference (master...quirks-reftest) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1469
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  118. # [13:20] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: thanks
  119. # [13:21] <ted_> jgraham: it looks like it would be fairly straightforward to do it in that script
  120. # [13:21] <ted_> i don't know what update_manifest.py is doing, but it's just not working for me
  121. # [13:21] <jgraham> Yeah, I think adding it there would be pretty easy
  122. # [13:22] <jgraham> The only reason I haven't is that I don't know what's *actually* deployed
  123. # [13:22] <ted_> right
  124. # [13:22] <ted_> whee devops
  125. # [13:23] <darobin> I didn't even know we had an unmirror command
  126. # [13:24] <darobin> it's not so much a devops things as a "who the fuck is actually doing something on this team" thing :)
  127. # [13:24] <darobin> it sure looks like we're just an import and a couple of calls away from this
  128. # [13:25] <darobin> if dom doesn't know maybe MikeSmith does
  129. # [13:25] <ted_> hah
  130. # [13:28] <darobin> I can confirm that what's in production is a modified version of that repo
  131. # [13:28] <ted_> okay
  132. # [13:28] <ted_> if someone were to put the production version up somewhere i could maybe see if i could make it work
  133. # [13:29] <darobin> and https://github.com/dontcallmedom/github_sync isn't any closer
  134. # [13:29] <ted_> assuming all we really want is "run manifest.py to generate the manifest when deploying the latest changes"
  135. # [13:30] <ted_> can we get all the member orgs to chip in a few bucks and sponsor an ops position? :-P
  136. # [13:30] <darobin> ted_: that sounds great, but I'd like to make sure whoever set it up is in the loop so we don't end up with chaos (paging dom!)
  137. # [13:30] <ted_> yeah
  138. # [13:30] <ted_> okay, just let me know
  139. # [13:30] <MikeSmith> sorry was away smoking a bowl
  140. # [13:30] <ted_> i've done worse things in my tenure at mozilla
  141. # [13:30] * MikeSmith reads backscroll
  142. # [13:30] <darobin> W3C has good ops, but the initial understanding for the test box was that we'd run without their support (so as to be allowed to break things)
  143. # [13:30] <ted_> ahh
  144. # [13:31] <ted_> gotcha :)
  145. # [13:31] <MikeSmith> I need to fix something on w3c-test.org?
  146. # [13:31] <darobin> I reckon that now that we have a stable setup, it could make sense to get back into the fold
  147. # [13:31] <darobin> MikeSmith: not as such, we're discussing an enhancement to the script that syncs from GH to the server
  148. # [13:32] <darobin> MikeSmith: and the source that's running on the server isn't either jgraham's or dom's version from GH
  149. # [13:32] <MikeSmith> I see 21:03 ted_: is there a known issue on the test runner on w3c-test.org getting stuck at "Updating and loading test manifest"?
  150. # [13:32] <ted_> yeah
  151. # [13:32] <darobin> MikeSmith: so we'd like to 1) get an official sync.py source up there, 2) let ted_ hack on it, and 3) redeploy
  152. # [13:32] * MikeSmith is checking the machine now to see what's wedged
  153. # [13:32] <ted_> MikeSmith: we think the solution to that is "stop doing the silly thing we're currently doing"
  154. # [13:32] <darobin> MikeSmith: yes, that's a problem that happens often when running update_manifest.py from the browser
  155. # [13:32] <ted_> although if you've got a short-term way to kick something that's great too
  156. # [13:33] <MikeSmith> I can definitely do the kick now
  157. # [13:33] <ted_> thanks!
  158. # [13:33] <MikeSmith> and happy to deploy a newer copy of the sync script whenever
  159. # [13:34] <darobin> MikeSmith: yeah, we just need to address (1) and (2)
  160. # [13:34] <darobin> I'm happy to put the current version we have in GH somewhere, but I don't want to break something that dom or you might know about
  161. # [13:36] * Ms2ger mumbles something about tests
  162. # [13:36] <MikeSmith> it's not going to break anything critical and if it does then we just figure it out and fix it
  163. # [13:37] <MikeSmith> I call this "trial and error"
  164. # [13:37] <darobin> no no no
  165. # [13:37] <darobin> that's all wrong MikeSmith
  166. # [13:37] <darobin> it's the "Trial and Error Manifesto"
  167. # [13:37] <ted_> haha
  168. # [13:37] <dom> fwiw, the only changes I remember bringing to the scrip was compatibility with the old version of the requests module
  169. # [13:37] <darobin> how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
  170. # [13:37] <dom> (the one installed on the w3c-test.org)
  171. # [13:37] <dom> where json is a dict, not a method (iirc)
  172. # [13:37] <darobin> dom: there are quite a few differences
  173. # [13:38] <ted_> Ms2ger: it's tests all the way down
  174. # [13:39] <MikeSmith> shit I always forget to add the "Manifesto" part!!
  175. # [13:39] * MikeSmith kicks himself in the head
  176. # [13:39] <jgraham> You're confusing "tests" with "ducttape" there
  177. # [13:39] <dom> you mean other differences between the script in w3c-test and the version in GH?
  178. # [13:39] <dom> also, I tried to document the changes I made as local commits
  179. # [13:39] <dom> but then this was a long time ago, so my memory might not serve me wel
  180. # [13:39] <dom> l
  181. # [13:40] <darobin> "the Trial And Error Manifesto — It Almost Spells TEAM!™"
  182. # [13:40] <MikeSmith> so looking now I see one thing we're doing is that we have the sync script and wptserve running under different users
  183. # [13:41] <MikeSmith> and filemode owner of the gamepad dir there is one user while most of the rest of the files and dirs are another
  184. # [13:41] <darobin> dom: https://gist.github.com/darobin/2017b147ed03e9ab4120
  185. # [13:41] <darobin> that's the diff
  186. # [13:41] <darobin> (where the one in tmp is what I got from your GH repo
  187. # [13:41] <darobin> )
  188. # [13:41] <Ms2ger> darobin, TAEM is a good first trial and error to spell TEAM
  189. # [13:41] <darobin> exactly
  190. # [13:42] * MikeSmith first fixes the user in the wptserve init script
  191. # [13:42] <darobin> we can then create a consultancy called Edit Distance 1
  192. # [13:42] <ted_> MikeSmith: the gamepad dir is brand new
  193. # [13:42] <ted_> so if something was mismatched that's probably the root cause
  194. # [13:42] <dom> darobin, I think most of the config-reading changes aren't from me
  195. # [13:42] <dom> at least I don't recognize them
  196. # [13:42] <MikeSmith> ted_: yeah, normalizing things things now
  197. # [13:43] <darobin> dom: well, /u/www.w3c-test.org/webhook/ isn't under git so we'll never know I guess
  198. # [13:44] <dom> well, that too is somebody else change — my checkout used to be a git repo :)
  199. # [13:44] <darobin> lol
  200. # [13:45] <darobin> this is a great version of devops: every developer can deploy; no one has the faintest clue who deployed what :)
  201. # [13:46] <darobin> it's sort of the Chaos Monkey for communication — in order to ensure that we are resilient to total communications breakdown, we randomly fail to communicate :)
  202. # [13:47] <MikeSmith> I call this "rock and roll"
  203. # [13:48] <MikeSmith> things seem to be running again
  204. # [13:48] <MikeSmith> something is happening
  205. # [13:48] <MikeSmith> like, I think the sync script is running again or just finished running
  206. # [13:49] <MikeSmith> ted_: can you check the browser runner again and see if it's working for you?
  207. # [13:49] * MikeSmith tails the log
  208. # [13:52] * ted_ tries
  209. # [13:52] <MikeSmith> well damn ERROR:web-platform-tests:No module named html5lib
  210. # [13:53] <MikeSmith> I guess I need to manually re-init the submodule
  211. # [13:53] <ted_> whee
  212. # [13:53] <MikeSmith> s
  213. # [13:53] <MikeSmith> gotta really love github
  214. # [13:53] <MikeSmith> as must as Ms2ger loves it
  215. # [13:54] <ted_> git submodules are horrible
  216. # [13:54] <ted_> but all vcses are horrible
  217. # [13:54] <ted_> everything is terrible
  218. # [13:54] * ted_ weeps
  219. # [13:54] * MikeSmith embarks on the next round of trial and error
  220. # [13:55] * MikeSmith sees Cloning into 'tools/html5lib'... working as expected
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  222. # [13:56] <jgraham> At least web-platform-tests make some effort to keep the dependencies available
  223. # [13:56] * jgraham mutters something about CSS tests needing both hg and svn
  224. # [13:57] <MikeSmith> DEBUG:manifest:Creating new manifest at /u/www.w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/MANIFEST.json
  225. # [13:57] <MikeSmith> DEBUG:manifest:Adding all changesets to the manifest
  226. # [13:57] <ted_> whee
  227. # [13:58] <MikeSmith> ok it appears to be succesfully un-borked for now
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  230. # [14:01] <MikeSmith> dom: I made the config-reading change, if you mean the --config=foo thing. To prevent our config file from getting blown away the next time when somebody does a git clean
  231. # [14:02] <MikeSmith> (which still doesn't address the problem of the symlinks we added in that dir getting blown away. but it's progress)
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  233. # [14:03] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #1467: Sync unitless length quirk with ... (master...unitless-length-whitelist) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1467
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  239. # [14:36] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/sync_restart: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/d143d1fcfd045546cce43408349be8a8866d2914
  240. # [14:36] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/sync_restart d143d1f James Graham: fixup! Rewrite update algorithm to be restartable and extensible.
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  314. # Session Close: Tue Dec 16 00:00:00 2014

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