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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jan 23 00:00:00 2015
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  29. # [09:19] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] haoxli closed pull request #1081: Turn off input password autocomplete to enhance security (master...haoxli/turnoff-password-autocomplete) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1081
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  33. # [09:56] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] yunxiaoxie opened pull request #1578: Update tests for Webstorage spec update (master...storage-quotaexceedederror) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1578
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  39. # [11:42] <jgraham> http://testthewebforward.org/dashboard/?#all The shape of pending contributions vs open issues is very strange. I thought that open issues were PRs + Other issues, but as # PRs has gone down, open issues has remained almost exactly lat
  40. # [11:42] <jgraham> *flat
  41. # [11:42] <jgraham> Oh wait that doesn't make sense at all
  42. # [11:45] * jgraham prefers the presentation with a line graph of PRs and one of open issues (excluding PRs)
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  55. # [14:31] <jgraham> So…
  56. # [14:31] <jgraham> Reftests that can match one thing or another really are annoying
  57. # [14:32] <jgraham> For example if I have A == (B | C) and loading B causes a crash and C an error, what's the result?
  58. # [14:32] <jgraham> I mean it's not a pass obviously but FAIL? CRASH? ERROR?
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  77. # [16:40] <astearns> jgraham: one test failure and two browser bug reports?
  78. # [16:42] <jgraham> astearns: Well yes, if it was a human running the tests. But it's a machine
  79. # [16:43] <jgraham> I guess there are other bad cases too, like A == (B | C) where B causes a crash and C == A
  80. # [16:43] <jgraham> Then it's not even clear if it should be pass or fail~
  81. # [16:44] <astearns> right - C might be the intended match for the browser in which B crashes
  82. # [16:45] <astearns> but if it were my test I'm not sure I'd want to work around a crash that way
  83. # [16:45] <jgraham> YEah, so one tempting strategy is that if you get a result other than PASS or FAIL you immediately return that result
  84. # [16:46] <jgraham> That does have the strange consequence that A == (B | C) is different to A == (C | B)
  85. # [16:49] <astearns> probably better to report the crash, on the off-chance that gets the crash fixed faster
  86. # [16:50] <jgraham> I think I agree, even though it means losing commutivity
  87. # [16:56] <gsnedders> I'd argue that every URL ought to be an implicit crash test
  88. # [16:56] <gsnedders> though, uh, A == B | C… well… um…
  89. # [17:01] <jgraham> gsnedders: Every URL *is* an implicit crash test
  90. # [17:01] <jgraham> The point is that if you have A == (B | C) and A == B you never load C
  91. # [17:02] <jgraham> Well I guess there are schemes where every URL is not an implicit crash test
  92. # [17:03] <gsnedders> I get tha.
  93. # [17:03] <gsnedders> And the whole point is that that becomes something where you don't test C for crashiness.
  94. # [17:04] <jgraham> Yes. But I really don't want a situation where you have to try out all branches of a reftest even when you already know it passes
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  100. # [17:34] <jgraham> So I guess the timeout for a reftest should be per file rather than per test
  101. # [18:02] <astearns> MikeSmith: the restored csswg-test repo now says it's a fork of mine?
  102. # [18:02] <astearns> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-css-testsuite/2015Jan/0032.html
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  105. # [18:16] <MikeSmith> astearns: indeed
  106. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> I thought maybe that's because the original mirror was a fork of a repo you created
  107. # [18:20] <jgraham> Doesn't seem unlikely that GitHib restoring the repo just involved "forking" an existing repo with the same content
  108. # [18:20] <MikeSmith> yeah probably so
  109. # [18:22] <Ms2ger> Why does W3C Sync Bot spam me now?
  110. # [18:22] <jgraham> Fraternal affection?
  111. # [18:23] <Ms2ger> Can we make it use the github api instead?
  112. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> anyway as far as I know there's config option for removing the "forked ffrom҉ a҉s͏te̛a͘r̡n̛s/c̀ss҉w҉g̴-t͞e̷st" part
  113. # [18:25] <astearns> I only forked it after its creation, and my fork is way out of date
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  115. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: I don't think I changed anything in the sync bot hook settings recently
  116. # [18:26] <Ms2ger> Well, I recently got subscribed to the repo :)
  117. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> ah
  118. # [18:26] <Ms2ger> Also, ArtB no longer at Nokia?
  119. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> I think nobody's any longer at Nokia
  120. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> nobody we know at least
  121. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> I think only patent lawyers work there now
  122. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> Let's hire him as a whatwg chair
  123. # [18:28] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: +1
  124. # [18:28] <MikeSmith> he'd be the best chair the whatwg ever had
  125. # [18:29] <MikeSmith> and then the w3c can fork a copy of him to run the webapps wg
  126. # [18:30] <MikeSmith> astearns: at the time the repo was (re)reated it was up to date with the latest upstream mercurial commits afaik
  127. # [18:31] <MikeSmith> but since it's a mirror I guess if there's any doubt, plinss could just force push to it
  128. # [18:31] <MikeSmith> or maybe that's what his mirror script already does
  129. # [18:32] <astearns> so perhaps all that needs doing is to relink csswg-reviewers to the repo?
  130. # [18:34] <MikeSmith> astearns: that's done now too
  131. # [18:34] <MikeSmith> I just turned the appropriate knob
  132. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> Ze flashing knobs?
  133. # [18:35] <astearns> thanks!
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  145. # [22:33] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] inexorabletash opened pull request #1580: Add worker idlharness test for Indexed DB (master...inexorabletash/idb-interfaces-worker) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1580
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