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- # Session Start: Tue Feb 03 00:00:00 2015
- # Session Ident: #testing
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- # [07:58] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] cgdjmr opened pull request #1604: add more tests for crypto.getRandomValues (master...cgdjmr/crypto_api_tests) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1604
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- # [10:38] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #1597: Move the history and location tests into place (master...sessionhistory/move) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1597
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- # [12:16] <Ms2ger> Nice
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- # [12:34] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 3 new commits to jgraham/reftest_changes: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/compare/1229cf5149d4...ad72baea32cf
- # [12:34] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/reftest_changes 69bc82b James Graham: fixup! fixup! Initial reftest changes
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- # [12:58] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #1605: Move failing-test.html out of common. (master...failing-test) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1605
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- # [14:51] <MikeSmith> jgraham: ato So should I create a GSOC proposal for WebDriver-enabling testharness.js? (so that we can do the thing of automating our current manual tests and going forward, providing a way to automate new tests that can't be automated from normal testharness.js)
- # [14:54] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Yeah, let's see if we can put a sane-sounding proposal together. Although I don't know that testharness.js specifically should need changes. The project should be to implement a webdriver client in js that communicates with wptrunner via XHR or websockets, with wptrunner then calling back into the browser to run the cimmand
- # [14:54] <jgraham> *command
- # [14:55] <MikeSmith> jgraham: OK
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- # [17:56] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham created jgraham/reftest_changes_2 (+3 new commits): https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/compare/31e9c15fe69f^...88f004c51e36
- # [17:56] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/reftest_changes_2 31e9c15 James Graham: Command line arguments changes....
- # [17:56] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/reftest_changes_2 bb3bffa James Graham: Support for richer reftest semantics....
- # [17:56] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/reftest_changes_2 88f004c James Graham: Add some functional/integration tests for wptrunner....
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- # [17:56] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham opened pull request #73: Implement new reftest semantics (master...jgraham/reftest_changes_2) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/73
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- # [17:57] <jgraham> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/3906
- # [17:57] <jgraham> r?
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- # [17:58] <jgraham> Builds on the manifest changes in https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/3816
- # [17:59] <jgraham> Oh and I just remembered I broke test chunking. Should probably fix that :)
- # [17:59] <jgraham> (but still r? on what's there)
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- # [18:09] <MikeSmith> nice to see "Add some functional/integration tests for wptrunner." in changelog
- # [18:09] <MikeSmith> hope that's the start of a trend
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- # [18:10] <MikeSmith> can try to help with review in the morning
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- # [18:33] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 2 new commits to jgraham/reftest_changes_2: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/compare/88f004c51e36...ad5ec0ed82b8
- # [18:33] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/reftest_changes_2 5966082 James Graham: fixup! Command line arguments changes....
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- # [18:57] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] cgdjmr closed pull request #1604: add more tests for crypto.getRandomValues (master...cgdjmr/crypto_api_tests) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1604
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- # [19:02] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/reftest_changes_2: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/5b6e97d56bd47115d64e014ea704dee431b1a810
- # [19:02] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/reftest_changes_2 5b6e97d James Graham: fixup! Support for richer reftest semantics....
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- # [19:09] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] cgdjmr opened pull request #1606: Cgdjmr/crypto api tests (master...cgdjmr/crypto_api_tests) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1606
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- # [21:50] <ato> MikeSmith: ++ about unit tests
- # [21:50] <ato> MikeSmith: About the project: I think what you said makes sense.
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- # [22:27] <jgraham> Well they aren't uint tests
- # [22:27] <jgraham> *unit
- # [22:27] <jgraham> They also aren't uint tests. Or any other type of integer for that matter.
- # [22:28] <jgraham> They're end-to-end functional tests which set up an actual test run and check that it gives the expected results
- # [22:28] <jgraham> That makes testing the common paths very easy with minimal work, but doesn't help for less commonly used paths
- # [22:28] <jgraham> e.g. it's hard to write a test to ensure that crash handling behaves as expected because it's hard to make the browser crash
- # [22:29] <ato> signed short tests?
- # [22:29] <ato> long double?
- # [22:30] <AutomatedTester> have a test use EME, that tends to break browsers atm
- # [22:30] <jgraham> Well "at the moment" isn't really what's needed :p
- # [22:31] <ato> I was fascinated by the integration tests Treeherder runs in an encapsulated system (like chroot/docker/container).
- # [22:31] <gsnedders> ato: signed short is still a type of integer
- # [22:31] <jgraham> I mean for that specific example you can imagine adding extra code to kill the browser manually during the test
- # [22:31] <ato> gsnedders: Were someone wrong on the internet again?
- # [22:31] <jgraham> Most of my tests have a type of ()
- # [22:31] <gsnedders> ato: maybe
- # [22:32] <ato> Just blame my unfamiliarity with C types (-:
- # [22:32] <ato> All you need is JS' Number, right?
- # [22:34] <jgraham> (it appears to be impossible to search for () on Google)
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- # [22:34] <AutomatedTester> jgraham: have you tried to bing it?
- # [22:34] <jgraham> (which is a pain both when looking up type systems and Sigur Rós albums)
- # [22:34] <jgraham> AutomatedTester: At Mozilla we spell that "Yahoo"
- # [22:35] <jgraham> Nope
- # [22:35] <gsnedders> ato: nah, we need some bigger int type
- # [22:36] <gsnedders> ato: 2^53 isn't big enough for everyone!
- # [22:38] <jgraham> Certainly 2**31 wasn't big enough for me today
- # [22:38] <ato> jgraham: Not being able to google for for Lisp whiskers would seem a feature to me (-;
- # [22:39] <ato> Perhaps it's an intentional limitation to prevent the spread of Lisp.
- # [22:39] <jgraham> This isn't lisp though!
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