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  1. # Session Start: Tue Mar 03 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #testing
  3. # [00:11] <MikeSmith> jgraham: Ms2ger so let's organize a Web Platform Summer of Code together instead
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  16. # [03:50] <MikeSmith> jgraham: I'm told that 16:00 UTC on March 6th on #gsoc there's an open "rejection meeting" we can attend to (I think) hear in more detail why we got rejected (and so maybe we can learn from the reason and have a better chance to get accepted next year)
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  32. # [09:41] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak closed pull request #1641: Improve and extend script-for-event.html. (master...for-event) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1641
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  35. # [10:01] <Ms2ger> denis, thanks :)
  36. # [10:01] <denis> Ms2ger, you are welcome. Thanks for the clarificatoin
  37. # [10:02] <denis> clarification
  38. # [10:02] <Ms2ger> Np
  39. # [10:02] <Ms2ger> I wrote the test because the Servo implementation made the same mistake :)
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  44. # [11:17] <jgraham> MikeSmith: YEah, seems like a good idea. I wonder if the overall programme is smaller this year, or something
  45. # [11:19] <MikeSmith> dunno but as far as the reason for W3C getting rejected I suspect one possibility is that we didn't produce anything useful out of the student work that was done in 2013 through our projects
  46. # [11:19] <MikeSmith> but that's because the guy who scoped them out that year had his head way up his ass
  47. # [11:20] <MikeSmith> he still does
  48. # [11:20] <MikeSmith> but at least he doesn't work for W3C any longer
  49. # [11:21] <MikeSmith> anyway thinking about it more I'm not so keen on submitting to a program where anonymous people from Google are the gatekeeper deciding whether we move forward or not
  50. # [11:22] <jgraham> I guess it's tempting to look for a narrative that explains both W3C and Mozilla being rejected whereas in fact it might be different reasons for each. I am *very* surprised by Mozilla though
  51. # [11:22] <MikeSmith> yeah
  52. # [11:22] <MikeSmith> I'm also much more surprised at Mozilla getting waved off
  53. # [11:23] <MikeSmith> anyway not to blame Googleーthey have every right to make decisions for GSOC based on whatever criteria they see fit
  54. # [11:24] <MikeSmith> but it just makes it clear to me we'd be better off trying to get our own thing going where we're the ones making decisions
  55. # [11:24] <Ms2ger> Get the Chrome team to fund it :
  56. # [11:25] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: heh
  57. # [11:25] <jgraham> Yeah. The big advantage of GSoC is just that Google were offering to pay
  58. # [11:25] <MikeSmith> yeah
  59. # [11:25] <Ms2ger> "not accepting Mozilla was a difficult decision for them. It is not the result of a mistake on our part or an accident on their side."
  60. # [11:25] <Ms2ger> "there's an assumption that not participating for one year would not be as damaging for us as it would be for some other organizations, due to us having already participated many times."
  61. # [11:25] <MikeSmith> but no joke I think if we put together a plan of our own for our own focused thing we could get even Google to put some money behind it
  62. # [11:26] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: that's some odd logic
  63. # [11:26] <MikeSmith> but it does seem to suggest the decision-makers were more constrained this year
  64. # [11:27] <MikeSmith> anyway I think some of us should attend the "rejection meeting" on IRC this Friday
  65. # [11:27] <MikeSmith> 16:00 UTC on March 6th on #gsoc
  66. # [11:27] <MikeSmith> I'm told
  67. # [11:29] <MikeSmith> anyway I think as far as core web-platform coding goes, we're anyway in a better position to attract the right kind of participants
  68. # [11:29] <MikeSmith> especially of course for coding on shared testing infrastructure bits
  69. # [11:31] <MikeSmith> we could just take our testing-related proposals from http://www.w3.org/2015/02/gsoc-2015.html#ideas as-is
  70. # [11:31] <MikeSmith> we'd just need to get some funding
  71. # [11:31] <MikeSmith> but I think this should almost sell itselfーat least if we keep the scale modest
  72. # [11:32] <MikeSmith> we'd just need enough funding for ~3 students over 3 months
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  82. # [14:14] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham created update_fixups (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/13b14759fb62
  83. # [14:14] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/update_fixups 13b1475 James Graham: Fix update script with reftest changes
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  90. # [15:10] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham opened pull request #79: Fix update script with reftest changes (master...update_fixups) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/79
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  93. # [15:23] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham closed pull request #76: Add ability to pause after running tests (master...jgraham/pause_after_test) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/76
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  95. # [15:42] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: http://w3c-test.org/ down?
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  97. # [15:46] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: ehcking now
  98. # [15:47] <MikeSmith> load on that machine is normal
  99. # [15:47] <MikeSmith> in fact quite low
  100. # [15:47] <MikeSmith> wait it's not responding at all
  101. # [15:48] <MikeSmith> the web server
  102. # [15:48] <jgraham> Yeah, the server just seems to be down
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  104. # [15:50] <MikeSmith> ah
  105. # [15:50] <MikeSmith> the script was renamed
  106. # [15:50] <MikeSmith> serve.py -> serve
  107. # [15:50] <MikeSmith> so we need to change our init script
  108. # [15:52] <jgraham> Oh, yeah. Probably should have mentioned that :|
  109. # [15:54] <MikeSmith> no worries
  110. # [15:54] <MikeSmith> working again now
  111. # [15:59] <zcorpan> ty
  112. # [16:01] <jgraham> Thanks :)
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  120. # [17:33] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #1654: Expand open-method-bogus.htm with additional tests from presto-testo. (master...open-method-bogus) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1654
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  123. # [17:38] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger created open-during-abort (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/3f4e8da8ea1d
  124. # [17:38] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/open-during-abort 3f4e8da Ms2ger: Import open-during-abort.htm from presto-testo.
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  127. # [17:39] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #1655: Import open-during-abort.htm from presto-testo. (master...open-during-abort) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1655
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  131. # [17:42] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham closed pull request #79: Fix update script with reftest changes (master...update_fixups) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/79
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  135. # [17:43] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/47eb94261171cb4e8d9c73289a7885ed77ec739c
  136. # [17:43] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/master 47eb942 James Graham: Update version number for release
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  138. # [17:49] <Automate_> does anyone else have w3c bugzilla log them out after each action?
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  141. # [17:57] <Ms2ger> Not me
  142. # [18:03] <MikeSmith> Automate_: yeah I tink the workaround is to remove all your cookies
  143. # [18:03] <Automate_> *sigh*
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  145. # [18:03] <MikeSmith> w3c.org cookies
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  150. # [19:15] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] bzbarsky opened pull request #1656: Use an actually-really-invalid selector for the invalid selector sanity check (master...master) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1656
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  189. # [23:35] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] zcorpan closed pull request #1656: Use an actually-really-invalid selector for the invalid selector sanity check (master...master) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1656
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