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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jul 31 00:00:01 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #testing
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  17. # [04:25] <MikeSmith> jyasskin_w: it makes more sense in the case of Bikeshed, because .bs files are not meant to be loaded by browsers
  18. # [04:26] <MikeSmith> so there's no value (or much less value) in trying to check a .bs file with an HTML checker
  19. # [04:26] <MikeSmith> but respec files are HTML files
  20. # [04:26] <MikeSmith> and respec files are loaded by browsers
  21. # [04:27] <MikeSmith> so it makes sense to run them through an HTML checker in order to help catch any mistakes that might cause them to not get processed by a browser as expected
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  23. # [05:14] <MikeSmith> ato: sadly I think at this point Respec is going to continue to get further hijacked by Shane in increasingly asshatted ways
  24. # [05:14] <MikeSmith> because that's his pattern
  25. # [05:14] <MikeSmith> so it's a lost cause and we I recommend we work on a plan to migrate to Bikeshed
  26. # [05:15] <MikeSmith> and I'm willing to put time into helping do the migration
  27. # [05:18] <MikeSmith> otherwise, especially without Robin around to provide some balance with regard to Respec maintenance, it's just going to degrade and we'll need to burn up time explaining to dude the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground
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  40. # [08:40] <botie> cvrebert, at 2015-07-30 10:19 UTC, MikeSmith said: your rate of wpt PRs has slowed considerably. Time to pick up the pace, please
  41. # [08:41] <cvrebert> So, who owns the w3c-test.org app?
  42. # [08:43] <cvrebert> *reads yesterday's IRC logs* Aha.
  43. # [08:54] <cvrebert> botie: tell MikeSmith har har. Nowadays I'm poking csswg-test instead.
  44. # [08:54] <botie> will do
  45. # [08:56] <cvrebert> "oh btw, the Tables CSS spec has no maintainer" Wat dafuq...
  46. # [09:01] <MikeSmith> hi cvrebert
  47. # [09:01] <botie> MikeSmith, at 2015-07-31 06:54 UTC, cvrebert said: har har. Nowadays I'm poking csswg-test instead.
  48. # [09:01] <MikeSmith> we're way more fun than csswg-test
  49. # [09:01] <MikeSmith> cvrebert: there is something we seriously could use your expertise with if you have interest and time
  50. # [09:04] <cvrebert> true, but CSS bugs are much harder for Bootstrap to workaround.
  51. # [09:04] <cvrebert> MikeSmith: and that is?
  52. # [09:04] <MikeSmith> the in-browser test runner
  53. # [09:04] <MikeSmith> the app at http://w3c-test.org/tools/runner/index.html
  54. # [09:04] <MikeSmith> (which isn't working right now because the server is once again wedged, but I'm trying to un-wedge it right now)
  55. # [09:04] <MikeSmith> reftest-testing with that runner is broken right now
  56. # [09:05] <cvrebert> yeah, I noticed that
  57. # [09:05] <MikeSmith> http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/testing/20150730#l-100
  58. # [09:06] <cvrebert> ...and read that
  59. # [09:06] <cvrebert> sorry, I don't have that level of gratis time available
  60. # [09:07] <MikeSmith> ok
  61. # [09:07] <MikeSmith> I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask
  62. # [09:07] <MikeSmith> we need to find somebody who's angry about it
  63. # [09:07] <MikeSmith> anger is powerful
  64. # [09:07] <MikeSmith> like the Hulk
  65. # [09:07] <MikeSmith> we need more anger
  66. # [09:08] <cvrebert> right. it's one level of yak shaving too far.
  67. # [09:15] <MikeSmith> I hear you
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  69. # [09:19] <MikeSmith> oh christ ... IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device: u'/u/www.w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/_certs/openssl.cfg
  70. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> denis: dealing with this fucked-up machine environment has become really tiresome
  71. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> root@grumple:~# df --si
  72. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  73. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> rootfs 11G 3.3G 6.9G 32% /
  74. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> udev 11M 0 11M 0% /dev
  75. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> tmpfs 415M 95k 415M 1% /run
  76. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> /dev/xvda1 11G 3.3G 6.9G 32% /
  77. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> tmpfs 5.3M 0 5.3M 0% /run/lock
  78. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> tmpfs 936M 0 936M 0% /run/shm
  79. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> /dev/xvda3 43G 24G 19G 56% /u
  80. # [09:20] <MikeSmith> tmpfs 2.1G 54k 2.1G 1% /tmp
  81. # [09:23] <MikeSmith> I guess wptserve has caused inodes to be exhausted or something again
  82. # [09:23] <MikeSmith> but I thought that was supposed to have been addressed already by changes to the system
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  85. # [09:24] <MikeSmith> because it can't make anything worse at this point
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  87. # [09:27] <MikeSmith> aaand... we still have the same problem
  88. # [09:28] <MikeSmith> which is no surprise I guess
  89. # [09:28] <cvrebert> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGljemfwUE#t=4m00s
  90. # [09:30] <denis> MikeSmith: I'm thinking we should probably move to openstack MIT is offering
  91. # [09:30] <MikeSmith> denis: yeah I think so
  92. # [09:30] <denis> I'll try to talk to ted about that on monday and if he agrees, I'll start working on it
  93. # [09:31] <denis> but regarding the I/O issue, I'm wondering if it's related to the ulimit change we did for wptserve
  94. # [09:31] <MikeSmith> denis: I would guess maybe so
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  96. # [09:32] <denis> root@grumple:~# df -i | grep /u
  97. # [09:32] <denis> /dev/xvda3 2621440 2621440 0 100% /u
  98. # [09:32] <MikeSmith> yup
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  100. # [09:33] <MikeSmith> dunno why I bothered to even try df --si earlier just nwo
  101. # [09:34] <MikeSmith> df -ih
  102. # [09:34] <MikeSmith> oof
  103. # [09:35] <denis> MikeSmith: are all the directories under /u used?
  104. # [09:37] <MikeSmith> denis: no but the inode problem is caused by the stuff in the /u/web-platform-tests/ tree, right?
  105. # [09:37] <denis> I think so
  106. # [09:37] <denis> because there are a lot of files there
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  108. # [09:39] <denis> MikeSmith: you just removed eclipse, right?
  109. # [09:39] <MikeSmith> yeah
  110. # [09:40] <MikeSmith> and removing other stuff there now too
  111. # [09:41] <MikeSmith> the thing is, I have never run into this problem on any system I've ever used or maintained that had plenty of filesystem space free, as this one does
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  113. # [09:41] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] TakayoshiKochi opened pull request #2044: Fix failing and obsolete tests in shadow dom createShadowRoot() tests (master...non-element-createshadow) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2044
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  115. # [09:42] <MikeSmith> I really don't understand why we keep running into with this system
  116. # [09:43] <MikeSmith> I suspect that another normally configured system at Digital Ocean or whatever would handle it just fine
  117. # [09:43] <MikeSmith> so I don't know what we're doing wrong system-wise but I am pretty sure we're doing something wrong
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  119. # [09:45] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] youennf opened pull request #2045: Adding more bogus header values (master...xhr-space-header-value) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2045
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  121. # [09:45] <MikeSmith> denis: anyway I've now deleted everything under /u expect what I know we need
  122. # [09:46] <denis> there are almost 200k files under /u/web-platform-tests
  123. # [09:46] <denis> and the inode issue is generally related to FS having a lot of small files
  124. # [09:46] <denis> but I think it's related to the ulimit gerald added to the init script
  125. # [09:47] <denis> ulimit -v 2097152
  126. # [09:47] <denis> seems quite high
  127. # [09:47] <denis> MikeSmith: you have some free space now
  128. # [09:47] <denis> you can run wptserve again
  129. # [09:48] <denis> I'll discuss with ted if we can migrate to openstack and investigate about the inode issue
  130. # [09:48] <MikeSmith> ok thanks again
  131. # [09:48] <MikeSmith> btw I have 268847 files in my locatl web-platform-tests dir on my PC
  132. # [09:49] <MikeSmith> and I don't run out of inodes in my PC environment
  133. # [09:49] <MikeSmith> so I don't understand why the system on grumple can't deal with it
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  135. # [09:49] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] hayatoito closed pull request #2044: Fix failing and obsolete tests in shadow dom createShadowRoot() tests (master...non-element-createshadow) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2044
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  138. # [09:49] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] hayatoito pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/compare/3a8391a8e2f2...4618b7a0e0bf
  139. # [09:49] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 2749657 Takayoshi Kochi: Fix failing and obsolete tests....
  140. # [09:49] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 4618b7a Hayato Ito: Merge pull request #2044 from TakayoshiKochi/non-element-createshadow...
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  142. # [09:49] <MikeSmith> I don't think it's actually a very execptional case at all
  143. # [09:49] <denis> I suspect the ulimit
  144. # [09:50] <MikeSmith> OK
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  146. # [09:50] <MikeSmith> denis: cheers
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  156. # [12:13] -gitbot:#testing- [wpt-tools] jgraham created jgraham/routes_builder (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/wpt-tools/commit/b364e1b338ad
  157. # [12:13] -gitbot:#testing- wpt-tools/jgraham/routes_builder b364e1b James Graham: Add a RoutesBuilder object to serve....
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  160. # [12:15] -gitbot:#testing- [wptserve] jgraham created jgraham/routes_builder (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/wptserve/commit/1da4672d7e00
  161. # [12:15] -gitbot:#testing- wptserve/jgraham/routes_builder 1da4672 James Graham: Fix the handling of non-default url bases....
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  164. # [12:17] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/py_outside_root: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/0c0cd343e8ce0eeff1b24da96fb4fe9016034f59
  165. # [12:17] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/py_outside_root 0c0cd34 James Graham: Use the RoutesBuilder infrastructure in serve to setup the routes.
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  168. # [12:18] -gitbot:#testing- [wptserve] jgraham opened pull request #64: Fix the handling of non-default url bases. (master...jgraham/routes_builder) https://github.com/w3c/wptserve/pull/64
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  171. # [12:18] -gitbot:#testing- [wpt-tools] jgraham opened pull request #27: Add a RoutesBuilder object to serve. (master...jgraham/routes_builder) https://github.com/w3c/wpt-tools/pull/27
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  173. # [12:19] <jgraham> Like a dessert at a pretentious resturant, I have a trio of pull requests to delight the senses
  174. # [12:20] <jgraham> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/5683 https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/5682 https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/5675
  175. # [12:21] <jgraham> (they ran through try, if that makes you feel more confident)
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  199. # [21:11] -gitbot:#testing- wptserve/jgraham/routes_builder 596d317 James Graham: fixup! Fix the handling of non-default url bases.
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  203. # [21:12] -gitbot:#testing- wpt-tools/jgraham/routes_builder c9fb97d James Graham: fixup! Add a RoutesBuilder object to serve.
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