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  1. # Session Start: Fri Aug 21 00:00:00 2015
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  32. # [09:50] <Ms2ger> gsnedders, is https://github.com/operasoftware/presto-testo/pull/49 supposed to have all the css21 refs you had?
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  35. # [11:22] <ato> What to do when tests you review are just… terrible?
  36. # [11:23] <ato> Accept that it’s an iterative process and return to fix them up later yourself once the patch reaches acceptable minimum standards?
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  46. # [17:08] <Ms2ger`> Oh, looks like the two-way mirroring for csswg-test also mirrors non-master branches from github
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  49. # [17:36] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: I'm 99% sure it doesn't.
  50. # [17:36] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: given it doesn't include those from my earlier email
  51. # [17:37] <gsnedders> ato: explain why they're terrible?
  52. # [17:37] <Ms2ger`> Top 4 commits on https://hg.csswg.org/test/ haven't merged yet
  53. # [17:37] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: it's definitely /some/ of the refs
  54. # [17:37] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: see what I said while you were gone in logs
  55. # [17:37] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: …if they exist nowadays
  56. # [17:38] <Ms2ger`> Oh
  57. # [17:39] <Ms2ger`> Fun
  58. # [17:40] <Ms2ger`> gsnedders, I'm happy to help with file-munging if you get me a reftest.list fwiw
  59. # [17:40] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: first plan is to look through what TCs have already been merged from presto-testo and add refs from the reftest.list that now exists
  60. # [17:40] <ato> gsnedders: Specifically they make assumptions about the API that isn’t defined in the spec, have many design issues, but more generally I get the impression they have been written against the API of an open source project in
  61. # [17:40] <gsnedders> essentially we have a subset after that PR
  62. # [17:40] <ato> s/in/\./
  63. # [17:41] <ato> (We’re talking about the test submissions from Microsoft to WebDriver.)
  64. # [17:41] <ato> I can keep pointing out issues, but I’m unsure if it’s the right approach.
  65. # [17:41] <ato> It’s tedious for me and I’m sure crushing to the author.
  66. # [17:42] <gsnedders> Meh. What else can you do? Anything else is just as crushing and doesn't lead to their education and better tests in the future.
  67. # [17:44] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: so yeah, I'm gonna have a brief skim through what's already landed in wpt/css-test and see what we now have pub refs for
  68. # [17:44] <Ms2ger`> gsnedders++
  69. # [17:45] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: essentially based on PRs of people removing tests in the history of presto-testo :P
  70. # [17:45] <Ms2ger`> Also, it's pretty sad how much of Opera's work on the css2 refs was duplicated by gtalbot
  71. # [17:46] <gsnedders> meh.
  72. # [17:46] <gsnedders> I'd feel bad, except I really don't.
  73. # [17:46] <gsnedders> I fought so hard for so long.
  74. # [17:46] * Ms2ger` glares at jjensen
  75. # [17:47] <gsnedders> it wasn't him, so much
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  77. # [17:47] <gsnedders> this came from above him, AFAICT
  78. # [17:47] <gsnedders> MS wanted CSS 2.1 to reach REC.
  79. # [17:47] <gsnedders> Whether that was patent policy related or whatever I don't know.
  80. # [17:48] <gsnedders> They didn't want anything being done to the testsuite that could delay IRs.
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  82. # [18:11] <gsnedders> Ms2ger`: am I right in thinking that in general not too much work has been done on importing stuff from presto-testo into the css-tests?
  83. # [18:11] <Ms2ger`> Yes
  84. # [18:11] <Ms2ger`> By me, at least
  85. # [18:17] <gsnedders> I wonder how much is redunant
  86. # [18:17] <gsnedders> And I wonder which flexbox spec version this is testing :P
  87. # [18:18] <Ms2ger`> That's about the last thing I want to think about :)
  88. # [18:20] <gsnedders> "css/css3/unprefixed-gradients/ref/background-properties-border/background_repeat_no-repeat_background_size_auto_60px.xht" what a nice path
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