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  1. # Session Start: Mon Oct 05 00:00:00 2015
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  6. # [07:25] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] kojiishi opened pull request #2216: Fix resource URLs for testharness in 3 shadow-dom tests (master...shadow-issue-2215) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2216
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  10. # [08:43] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] TakayoshiKochi closed pull request #2216: Fix resource URLs for testharness in 3 shadow-dom tests (master...shadow-issue-2215) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2216
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  26. # [15:01] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: when you have time, can you please take a look at https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/271 and let me know what you think we should do with that at this point
  27. # [15:05] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Ugh
  28. # [15:06] <Ms2ger> MikeSmith, I don't think it makes much sense to have tests for specific interfaces under webidl/
  29. # [15:07] <gsnedders> I agree with Ms2ger.
  30. # [15:08] <MikeSmith> ok well it sounds like we don't want those tests in the repo
  31. # [15:08] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: am writing some argument on csswg-test #911
  32. # [15:08] <MikeSmith> should we close out that PR?
  33. # [15:09] <MikeSmith> or put a comment, "We have not plans to merge these tests into master."
  34. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> I'm not sure
  35. # [15:09] <MikeSmith> ok, I guess it doesn't cost us anything to keep it open
  36. # [15:10] <jgraham> Ih, why would we have an open PR that we didn't plan to merge?
  37. # [15:10] <jgraham> *Uh
  38. # [15:11] <Ms2ger> Because the tests are probably useful, though not in the right place
  39. # [15:11] <Ms2ger> If it was in the w3c repo, it'd be easy to remove tests from the branch as we add them where they belong
  40. # [15:12] <jgraham> That sounds like an issue and a branch, but not a PR
  41. # [15:12] <MikeSmith> we have plenty of other open PRs that are 1 year or 2 years old now, which I think also are effectively "no plan to merge this" PRs
  42. # [15:12] <jgraham> I don't think they are
  43. # [15:12] <jgraham> Well some of them are probably dead, but actually some I think we should just merge
  44. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> Maybe a better solution is an issue with checkboxes for each of those tests
  45. # [15:15] <gsnedders> I was going to go through all of them at some point, BTW
  46. # [15:15] <gsnedders> I think a lot of them are things where the person who opened it hasn't responded to feedback on tests
  47. # [15:16] <jgraham> Yeah, that is a problem with a lot of the TestTWF ones
  48. # [15:16] <MikeSmith> yeah
  49. # [15:16] <jgraham> And my DOMParsing tests :(
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  51. # [15:17] <jgraham> Well actually the problem there is that they weren't all mine in the first place. And also I was lazy
  52. # [15:17] <jgraham> Oh and there were multiple specs
  53. # [15:17] <jgraham> So many excuses
  54. # [15:17] <jgraham> anyway there are some big testsuites that I thik we could just land and deal with the fallout
  55. # [15:18] <jgraham> rather than leave them to rot as PRs
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  60. # [15:34] -gitbot:#testing- [csswg-test] frivoal opened pull request #914: Tests for focus :focus-within (master...focus-within) https://github.com/w3c/csswg-test/pull/914
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  63. # [15:34] -gitbot:#testing- [csswg-test] frivoal closed pull request #881: [selectors-4] focus-within tests for basic DOM tree and shadow DOM. (master...master) https://github.com/w3c/csswg-test/pull/881
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  67. # [15:42] <gsnedders> Is closing the PR helpful, though?
  68. # [15:42] <gsnedders> I'm not convinced it helps anyone.
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  70. # [15:44] <jgraham> It helps the impression that it's not worth contributing because your PR will be left to rot
  71. # [15:45] <jgraham> I mean it's an epsilon change there, but still
  72. # [15:45] <gsnedders> jgraham: are the awaiting-submitter-response labels not good enough for that?
  73. # [15:46] <jgraham> gsnedders: I imagine there is a set of people who just look at the number of open PRs and go "oh these people don't respond to review requests, I won't bother making a test"
  74. # [15:46] <gsnedders> jgraham: do you have any evidence for this?
  75. # [15:46] <jgraham> Well I occasionally hear people ask why we have so many open PRs
  76. # [15:46] <gsnedders> jgraham: I'm worried about making the closed PRs hard to find if anyone *does* want to fix them up and get them merged
  77. # [15:47] <jgraham> But it seems like the decision here was that this branch isn't something that will ever merge as-is
  78. # [15:47] <jgraham> It needs to be entirely refactored
  79. # [15:47] <gsnedders> I mean I guess if I can just search for is:pr label:awaiting-submitter-response it'll do, provided we only have closed stuff with that label that was closed because dead.
  80. # [15:47] <gsnedders> yeah, but that's that branch, not all the others
  81. # [15:47] <jgraham> I'm not saying we should close everything old
  82. # [15:48] <jgraham> But things that need a fundamental change, are probably better off as an issue + a branch so that the work can be picked up as a GFB or something
  83. # [15:48] <jgraham> and done piecemeal
  84. # [15:48] <jgraham> -,
  85. # [15:49] <gsnedders> OK, that I agree with.
  86. # [15:51] <jgraham> gsnedders: Speaking of large PRs, there seem to be 3 open issues on your XPath tests
  87. # [15:51] <jgraham> s/3/2/
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  89. # [15:53] <gsnedders> Um, uh
  90. # [15:53] <gsnedders> Yeah, I seem to have forgotten that. Will do.
  91. # [15:54] <jgraham> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/282 seems like a classic example of something we should just clean up minimally and land. Make it pass the lint and nothing more. When the tests turn out to be bogus fix them.
  92. # [15:55] <gsnedders> I thought we knew the tests were bogus?
  93. # [15:56] <jgraham> But we also know that no one is going to review them
  94. # [15:57] <jgraham> OTOH I bet that landing them and woking on the code in Servo would get the bogusness ironed out
  95. # [15:57] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Thoughts ^
  96. # [15:57] <gsnedders> True. :)
  97. # [15:59] <gsnedders> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/5798 — r?
  98. # [15:59] <gsnedders> tiny change toa ddress comments
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  101. # [16:08] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] gsnedders closed pull request #2146: Import Opera XPath tests. (master...opera_xpath_2) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2146
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  105. # [16:18] <jgraham> Sigh
  106. # [16:18] <jgraham> gsnedders: I tried to make a small update to the navigation PR and it turns out that it's in your repo
  107. # [16:18] <jgraham> So I can't push
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  109. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> Address the review comments I made on the one test I looked at?
  110. # [16:22] <jgraham> I can't!
  111. # [16:23] <gsnedders> jgraham: want me to push it to wpt in some branch?
  112. # [16:24] <jgraham> gsnedders: Well that still doesn't help because then we need a whole new PR
  113. # [16:24] <gsnedders> Oh bah :\
  114. # [16:24] <gsnedders> Github sucks at times.
  115. # [16:24] <jgraham> Yes
  116. # [16:24] <gsnedders> jgraham: Open a PR on my repo? :P
  117. # [16:26] <jgraham> it's probably faster for your to just do the work yourself :p The rebase will lead to two filename conflicts that you can solve however. Then passing the lint seems to be changing the line endings in one file + whatver Ms2ger wanted.
  118. # [16:26] <gsnedders> jgraham: filename conflicts are a pain, no?
  119. # [16:27] <gsnedders> jgraham: also gosh you realise I should actually /work/? :P
  120. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> Or you could give jgraham push access
  121. # [16:28] <jgraham> gsnedders: The filename conflicts aren't a pain. Thinking of a new filename for the tests in the PR is the hardest part
  122. # [16:28] <jgraham> But also, what Ms2ger said
  123. # [16:29] * gsnedders clumsily looks around github
  124. # [16:29] <gsnedders> You're jgraham, right?
  125. # [16:29] <gsnedders> Yes, you are.
  126. # [16:29] <gsnedders> jgraham: you have push access
  127. # [16:31] <jgraham> Takk
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  131. # [16:34] <gsnedders> jgraham: btw, how far behind are you on Critic? You up to date?
  132. # [16:34] <gsnedders> jgraham: if I start making patches upstream, will they reach your server?
  133. # [16:34] <jgraham> gsnedders: hahahahaha
  134. # [16:34] <Ms2ger> hahahahahaha
  135. # [16:34] * gsnedders takes that as a "no"
  136. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> It's hopelessly forked at this point
  137. # [16:36] <gsnedders> So if I send PRs on both jgraham and jenskl's repo I might win?
  138. # [16:37] <Ms2ger> jgraham has a repo now?
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  140. # [16:40] <gsnedders> I thought he used to. Bah. :\
  141. # [16:41] <gsnedders> So how do I get anything onto hoppolita?
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  143. # [16:45] <jgraham> First register that domain name…
  144. # [16:45] <gsnedders> pff, you and your Icelandic
  145. # [16:48] <gsnedders> jgraham: are you gonna do all the work to land op_parsing?
  146. # [16:50] <jgraham> gsnedders: op_parsing? Do you mean op_browsing?
  147. # [16:50] <gsnedders> bah, yes
  148. # [16:50] <jgraham> gsnedders: I seem to be looking at it
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  155. # [17:36] <jgraham> OK, I think the op_browsing stuff should now be landable
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  157. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> Then land it :)
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  161. # [17:48] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #304: Add whole load of tests for "Loading Web Pages". (master...op_browsing) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/304
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  167. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> jgraham, wanna update the servo copy? :)
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  169. # [18:04] <gsnedders> And then get jgraham to fix them and file more bugs on the spec when it turns out the spec still doesn't work with real websites
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  173. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham created sync_5838fda47464d1a1f6c36db216f17305f4308703 (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/5838fda47464
  174. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sync_5838fda47464d1a1f6c36db216f17305f4308703 5838fda Corey Farwell: Implement <option> 'defaultSelected' and 'selected' attributes...
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  177. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #2219: Implement <option> 'defaultSelected' and 'selected' attributes (master...sync_5838fda47464d1a1f6c36db216f17305f4308703) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2219
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  180. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham deleted sync_5838fda47464d1a1f6c36db216f17305f4308703 at 5838fda: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/5838fda
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  183. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham created sync_4c43f60d813e38183533c32f6b4d0b64f91756b0 (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/4c43f60d813e
  184. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sync_4c43f60d813e38183533c32f6b4d0b64f91756b0 4c43f60 David Zbarsky: Implement HTMLTableRowElement::Cells...
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  187. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #2220: Implement HTMLTableRowElement::Cells (master...sync_4c43f60d813e38183533c32f6b4d0b64f91756b0) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2220
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  190. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham deleted sync_4c43f60d813e38183533c32f6b4d0b64f91756b0 at 4c43f60: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/4c43f60
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  193. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham created sync_efed5f3ed79faa37719419537a7f5bbcd449117a (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/efed5f3ed79f
  194. # [18:13] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/sync_efed5f3ed79faa37719419537a7f5bbcd449117a efed5f3 Corey Farwell: HTMLTableSectionElement improvements...
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  197. # [18:14] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #2221: HTMLTableSectionElement improvements (master...sync_efed5f3ed79faa37719419537a7f5bbcd449117a) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2221
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  203. # [18:14] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham opened pull request #2222: Implement Storage::SupportedPropertyNames (master...sync_cd1cf5f889f8d1b041c02c044a5a4208c25df86f) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2222
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  206. # [18:14] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #2222: Implement Storage::SupportedPropertyNames (master...sync_cd1cf5f889f8d1b041c02c044a5a4208c25df86f) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2222
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  266. # Session Close: Tue Oct 06 00:00:00 2015

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