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  26. # [09:18] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] mikewest created mkwst/targeting-multiple-cross-origin (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/6d0e2a9da469
  27. # [09:18] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/mkwst/targeting-multiple-cross-origin 6d0e2a9 Mike West: Test targeting multiple cross-origin windows....
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  30. # [09:18] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] mikewest opened pull request #2363: Test targeting multiple cross-origin windows. (master...mkwst/targeting-multiple-cross-origin) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2363
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  45. # [09:56] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] mikewest created mkwst/targeting-nested-browsing-contexts (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/b20e23ebb628
  46. # [09:56] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/mkwst/targeting-nested-browsing-contexts b20e23e Mike West: Test targeting nested cross-origin browsing contexts....
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  49. # [09:56] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] mikewest opened pull request #2364: Test targeting nested cross-origin browsing contexts. (master...mkwst/targeting-nested-browsing-contexts) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2364
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  56. # [10:42] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk pushed 1 new commit to noreferrer-name-reuse: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/79e3e22d6999a468cdf771cc7305a7e436929b86
  57. # [10:42] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/noreferrer-name-reuse 79e3e22 Anne van Kesteren: Clear storage at the start and remove potential race condition
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  60. # [10:43] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] mikewest pushed 1 new commit to mkwst/targeting-nested-browsing-contexts: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/c5361dae9b6bdcbc10be88f58a38864b1977030a
  61. # [10:43] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/mkwst/targeting-nested-browsing-contexts c5361da Mike West: fixup @annevk feedback.
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  64. # [10:47] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] mikewest closed pull request #2344: Reusing a window name for a same-origin rel=noreferrer hyperlink (master...noreferrer-name-reuse) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2344
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  67. # [10:47] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] mikewest pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/23352f9145ee85d525dcd68e032c57b3ba21597d
  68. # [10:47] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 23352f9 Mike West: Merge pull request #2344 from w3c/noreferrer-name-reuse...
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  74. # [11:16] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk closed pull request #2364: Test targeting nested cross-origin browsing contexts. (master...mkwst/targeting-nested-browsing-contexts) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2364
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  77. # [11:16] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk deleted mkwst/targeting-nested-browsing-contexts at c5361da: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/c5361da
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  80. # [11:20] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk closed pull request #2329: Simple rel=noreferrer test (master...simple-noreferrer-test) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2329
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  83. # [11:20] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk deleted simple-noreferrer-test at a5b5408: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/a5b5408
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  86. # [11:36] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk force-pushed current-Realm from 3c191aa to 77e08b2: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commits/current-Realm
  87. # [11:36] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/current-Realm 77e08b2 Anne van Kesteren: Test current Realm (still to be defined in more detail)...
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  89. # [11:55] <tobie> Hi. Have you folks looked at that: https://github.com/facebook/mention-bot
  90. # [11:55] <tobie> Based on git blame
  91. # [11:57] <tobie> Looks like an interesting alternative to @-mentioning teams, unless a massive chunk of tests have been imported by a few people (which is probably the case here).
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  93. # [12:36] <Ms2ger> Afraid it is
  94. # [12:43] <jgraham> Well it might not be worse than the alternative which is hardcoded reviewers for specific paths
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  98. # [14:11] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk closed pull request #2352: More tests for crypto.getRandomValues() (master...webcrypto) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2352
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  105. # [14:37] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/update_properties: https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/commit/aa99fab09c56b7f208e9edf39812b9073026e435
  106. # [14:37] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/update_properties aa99fab James Graham: fixup! Allow per-product configuration of properties to use in metadata conditionals.
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  110. # [15:10] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk closed pull request #2354: rel=noreferrer cross-origin manual tests (master...noreferrer-cross-origin) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2354
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  113. # [15:10] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] annevk pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/82984abaef0aa8234093c4e8f5ae6eaa672653eb
  114. # [15:10] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master 82984ab Anne van Kesteren: Merge pull request #2354 from w3c/noreferrer-cross-origin...
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  121. # [15:47] -gitbot:#testing- wptrunner/jgraham/update_properties 8330fe8 James Graham: fixup! fixup! Allow per-product configuration of properties to use in metadata conditionals.
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  136. # [16:32] -gitbot:#testing- [wptrunner] jgraham closed pull request #162: Allow per-product configuration of properties to use in metadata conditionals. (master...jgraham/update_properties) https://github.com/w3c/wptrunner/pull/162
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  141. # [16:36] <gsnedders> jgraham: no thoughts on trying to integrate the two build systems? :P
  142. # [16:36] <gsnedders> 17:18 < gsnedders> what are your thoughts on visual tests and integrating the wpt/css build systems, BTW?
  143. # [16:36] <gsnedders> 17:18 < gsnedders> I want to see if we can get away just using the union of behaviours for everything…
  144. # [16:37] <jgraham> gsnedders: Oh, I didn't really understand what you were asking
  145. # [16:38] <jgraham> My thought was "we can treat visual tests as the manual equivalent of reftests for now"
  146. # [16:38] <jgraham> If you want something like -visual to indicate that a test requires a human to mark it but not to provide interaction, that's fine by me
  147. # [16:39] <jgraham> en Microsoft or whoever can use that with their screenshot backend if required
  148. # [16:39] <gsnedders> I basically mean can we change the build system to the union of behaviours of the two? Which would imply supporting flags in wpt, and probably complicating the rules for determining what files are tests
  149. # [16:39] <jgraham> *then
  150. # [16:39] <jgraham> I'm super-unexcited about supporting flags in wpt
  151. # [16:39] <gsnedders> I don't think they're realistically going to get dropped from csswg-test.
  152. # [16:40] <jgraham> But yes having a single way to generate the list of tests is a goal
  153. # [16:40] <jgraham> Well for the moment servo uses CSSWG-test running under the wpt manifest generator
  154. # [16:40] <gsnedders> It's too useful to have a means to determine what tests apply to paged media to do reftests of paged media stuff.
  155. # [16:40] <gsnedders> For example.
  156. # [16:40] <gsnedders> Which does require some metadata for the test harness.
  157. # [16:41] <jgraham> Or just a directory name or filename or something
  158. # [16:42] <jgraham> Are there actually UAs that run both kinds of tests?
  159. # [16:42] <jgraham> I know that browsers theoretically could, but I don't know if they actually do
  160. # [16:42] <Ms2ger> Browsers testing paged media? Hah
  161. # [16:42] <gsnedders> Gecko certainly has support for paged media reftests. Prince needs to be able to exclude continuous media tests.
  162. # [16:43] <gsnedders> I do wonder if it's worthwhile just trying to do some mass-renaming, but it seems so easily to break references to other files.
  163. # [16:44] <jgraham> Well theoretically you have all the information you need not to do that in the manifest
  164. # [16:45] <gsnedders> Right. It's a question of what's easier: changing the manifest generation stuff, or trying to move thousands of files…
  165. # [16:50] <gsnedders> Also dealing with the files with multiple flags is a bit harder :)
  166. # [16:51] <jgraham> Well at some level running code is going to win here. But most of what CSS has in flags seems somewhat irrelevant to me
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  168. # [16:52] <jgraham> Like anything about the kind of test environment required
  169. # [16:52] <gsnedders> I think there's rough consensus that many of them are useless
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  171. # [16:53] <gsnedders> But tests only for continuous media v. paged media v. either is a useful distinction (and does matter to people running the tests, at least insofar as what tests they expect to pass)
  172. # [16:54] <jgraham> Right, so if there's exactly one thing we care about then we should have a conversation about that one thing
  173. # [16:54] <jgraham> If there are multiple things we need to consider we need to talk about all of them
  174. # [16:55] <jgraham> Talking about an unknown abstract number of possibilities seems like a way to end up with a bad solution :)
  175. # [16:55] <jgraham> Can you start an email thread, perhaps, listing the flags you think are really important to running the tests in CI
  176. # [16:55] <gsnedders> there's already been a thread on that…
  177. # [16:56] <jgraham> On public-test-infra?
  178. # [16:56] <gsnedders> public-css-testsuite
  179. # [16:56] <jgraham> Well then
  180. # [16:57] <gsnedders> are you just denying the existance of that mailing list? o_O
  181. # [16:58] <gsnedders> the other thing that's kinda needed is speech, for testing aural CSS
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  183. # [16:58] <gsnedders> but that can probably be put into directory structure
  184. # [16:59] <gsnedders> I don't think renaming thousands of tests to add a -visual suffix on their name is useful, FWIW
  185. # [16:59] <jgraham> I'm not denying it exists. I'm denying that only posting to there is engaging with all the people that care, if your goal is to merge css and wpt
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  187. # [16:59] <gsnedders> My initial goal was just to simply css, really, so that people actually run it
  188. # [17:01] <jgraham> Right, well from my point of view the most likely way Mozilla will run css is if we can do it using the same tools as for wpt
  189. # [17:01] <jgraham> (the fact that we currently have a two year old version running for gecko notwithstanding)
  190. # [17:02] <gsnedders> Also from the Mozilla POV there's not ever gonna be any interest in running the non-automated stuff
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  192. # [17:09] <jgraham> Right, but I don't think anything makes that actively difficult
  193. # [17:09] <jgraham> marking things as -manual and in the future -visual seems sufficnet
  194. # [17:11] <gsnedders> I guess we should consider the 2.1 testsuite a lost cause, and just rename everything else in the short-term, perhaps
  195. # [17:12] <jgraham> Why is 2.1 a lost cause?
  196. # [17:12] <gsnedders> I don't want to rename 4k files.
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  215. # [20:19] <chongz> Hi, I added some tests for Touch&TouchEvent constructors (new in Touch Events v2 spec), may I have a review for it? Thanks! https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2299
  216. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> chongz, asked mbrubeck, he might not have time
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  218. # [20:44] <chongz> Ok thanks Ms2ger, is there anyway else I can ask for a review?
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  236. # [23:59] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] tobie created tobie-test-1 (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/40b7db26959e
  237. # [23:59] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/tobie-test-1 40b7db2 Tobie Langel: test 1
  238. # [23:59] * Parts: gitbot (~gitbot@public.cloak)
  239. # [23:59] * Joins: gitbot (~gitbot@public.cloak)
  240. # [23:59] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] tobie opened pull request #2365: test 1 (master...tobie-test-1) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2365
  241. # [23:59] * Parts: gitbot (~gitbot@public.cloak)
  242. # Session Close: Sat Nov 21 00:00:00 2015

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