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  51. # [11:11] <arve> marcos: yt?
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  68. # [14:23] * ArtB changes topic to 'Seeking Editor for File Upload spec (http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/webapi/FileUpload/)'
  69. # [14:41] * ArtB changes topic to 'Seeking Editor for File Upload spec (http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/webapi/FileUpload/); outstanding benefits :-)'
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  74. # [16:06] * marcos fantasizes of the myriad, nay! the smorgasbord, of benefits that could come from editing the file upload spec... :P
  75. # [16:10] <anne> yeah, you get to communicate with Garrett Smith
  76. # [16:13] <Dashiva> oh boy
  77. # [16:13] <Dashiva> Makes me want to volunteer
  78. # [16:20] <anne> also seems more likely for that spec to become part of HTMLInputElement and all than standalone, but we'll see
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  92. # [20:25] <smaug> shepazu: we don't have a call today, right?
  93. # [20:26] <shepazu> smaug: hmm
  94. # [20:26] <smaug> or
  95. # [20:26] <shepazu> I'm gonna say we don't
  96. # [20:26] <smaug> ok
  97. # [20:26] <shepazu> next week we will
  98. # [20:26] <shepazu> sorry for the long hiatus, I've been busy
  99. # [20:26] <smaug> good
  100. # [20:26] <shepazu> well, actually.
  101. # [20:27] <shepazu> maybe it would be good to have a short call
  102. # [20:27] <shepazu> if you are game
  103. # [20:27] <shepazu> I have something to ask you about
  104. # [20:27] <smaug> ok
  105. # [20:27] <smaug> still 8 mins
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  109. # [20:35] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  110. # [20:35] * trackbot is starting a teleconference
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  112. # [20:35] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-webapps-irc
  113. # [20:35] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  114. # [20:35] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  115. # [20:35] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAPP
  116. # [20:35] <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
  117. # [20:35] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  118. # [20:35] <trackbot> Date: 03 September 2008
  119. # [20:35] <shepazu> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  120. # [20:35] <Zakim> ok, shepazu, I see IA_WebAPI(DOM3)2:30PM already started
  121. # [20:36] <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu
  122. # [20:36] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  123. # [20:36] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  124. # [20:38] <smaug> can you hear me?
  125. # [20:39] <Zakim> -??P1
  126. # [20:39] * smaug re-calls
  127. # [20:39] <Zakim> +??P1
  128. # [20:40] <smaug> Zakim, ??P1 is me
  129. # [20:40] <Zakim> +smaug; got it
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  131. # [20:42] <Travis> Scribe: Travis
  132. # [20:42] <Travis> ScribeNick: Travis
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  134. # [20:45] <Travis> Topic: Issue/Action review
  135. # [20:45] <smaug> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/
  136. # [20:47] <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/2
  137. # [20:47] <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/08/23-svg-minutes.html
  138. # [20:48] <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html
  139. # [20:51] <Travis> shepazu: SVG WG (Tiny) decided to merge DOM L3 events functionality (pieces) into the SVG spec.
  140. # [20:52] <shepazu> s/SVG spec/SVG 1.2 Tiny spec/
  141. # [20:52] <shepazu> ... and align with DOM3 Events for SVG Full/Core
  142. # [20:52] <Travis> smaug: What parts of DOM L3 events?
  143. # [20:53] <Travis> shepazu: text events/ key events (snapshot of DOM L3 Events 1 year ago)
  144. # [20:54] <Travis> smaug: text events hasn't changed in a long time (and already implemented in some browsers)
  145. # [20:54] <Travis> shepazu: downside is that these pieces will be specified in two different places.
  146. # [20:55] <Travis> ... would consider the DOM L3 spec to be normative.
  147. # [20:55] <Travis> smaug: SVT 1.2 Tiny would remove dependency.
  148. # [20:56] <Travis> shepazu: We'd deprecate any legacy events stuff in SVG 1.2 Tiny in favor of whatever DOM L3 Events specifies in the future.
  149. # [20:57] <Travis> shepazu: Just wanting to make this group aware.
  150. # [20:58] <Travis> ... it's not the ideal solution
  151. # [20:58] <Travis> smaug: Perhaps you should send out email to gather feedback.
  152. # [20:58] <Travis> smaug: Would like to make sure Opera/Webkit and others not here will know.
  153. # [20:59] <Travis> Topic: tests
  154. # [21:00] <Travis> shepazu: Need to get moving on tests to see what's implemented, and how it's implemented.
  155. # [21:00] <Travis> ... Noticed that carmello put some tests up on the list.
  156. # [21:00] <shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0523.html
  157. # [21:03] <Travis> ... Don't have a lot of time this week [working on SVG]
  158. # [21:03] <smaug> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/44
  159. # [21:03] <Travis> ... Any particular questions for today?
  160. # [21:04] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-event-resize
  161. # [21:05] <smaug> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#window
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  164. # [21:07] <Travis> shepazu: Aught to think about how to address the "window" object and how events work with it.
  165. # [21:08] <shepazu> "A document view or an element has been resized. The resize occurred before the dispatch of this event type."
  166. # [21:08] <shepazu> Context info UIEvent.view
  167. # [21:08] <shepazu> view of type views::AbstractView, readonly
  168. # [21:08] <shepazu> The view attribute identifies the AbstractView from which the event was generated.
  169. # [21:10] <shepazu> so, maybe we should just say that AbstractView is synonymous with Window in current implementations
  170. # [21:11] <smaug> "The AbstractView object of default views must also implement the Window and EventTarget interfaces. "
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  173. # [21:12] <Travis> smaug: The previous quote is from HTML5.
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  175. # [21:13] <Travis> shepazu: This gives us the opportunity to describe how certain events propagate up to the "Abstract View"
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  177. # [21:15] <Travis> smaug: When I worked on load events about two years ago, to avoid special case logic, and it broke lots of pages.
  178. # [21:15] <Travis> shepazu: Do we all agree that we should use the same kind of language as HTML5 for defaultView?
  179. # [21:17] <smaug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0335.html
  180. # [21:18] <Travis> Resolution: Use similar language as HTML5 to specify event handling and propagation to the AbstractView (a.k.a. window object).
  181. # [21:18] <Travis> smaug: Current HTML5 specifies the event handling...
  182. # [21:19] <smaug> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#events0
  183. # [21:19] <smaug> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/44
  184. # [21:20] <shepazu> Resolution: follow proposal from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0335.html
  185. # [21:20] <shepazu> Action: shepazu to integrate http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0335.html into D3E
  186. # [21:20] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  187. # [21:20] * RRSAgent records action 1
  188. # [21:20] <trackbot> Created ACTION-245 - Integrate http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0335.html into D3E [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-09-10].
  189. # [21:21] <Travis> shepazu: Other issues?
  190. # [21:23] <Zakim> +Josh_Soref
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  192. # [21:24] <Travis> Travis: smaug has some questions remaining about scrollevents...
  193. # [21:24] <smaug> wheelevents
  194. # [21:24] <Travis> smaug: Still need to put some things together.
  195. # [21:24] <Travis> (thanks)
  196. # [21:26] <Zakim> -smaug
  197. # [21:26] <Travis> shepazu: Thanks All.
  198. # [21:26] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  199. # [21:26] <Zakim> -Shepazu
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  201. # [21:26] <Zakim> -Josh_Soref
  202. # [21:26] <Zakim> IA_WebAPI(DOM3)2:30PM has ended
  203. # [21:26] <Zakim> Attendees were [Microsoft], Shepazu, smaug, Josh_Soref
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  205. # [21:41] <shepazu> Zakim, bye
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  207. # [21:41] <shepazu> RRSAgent, make minutes
  208. # [21:41] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-webapps-minutes.html shepazu
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