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  1. # Session Start: Wed Sep 17 00:00:00 2008
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  23. # [06:38] <MikeSmith> marcos: I changed the title but can't change the /TR/widgets-reqs/ symlink myself.. will need to wait still for Jules to do that
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  35. # [11:09] <marcos> mikesmith, no probs.
  36. # [11:09] <marcos> thank you.
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  45. # [13:10] * ArtB waves to Marcos
  46. # [13:11] * marcos waves back
  47. # [13:11] <ArtB> Marcos, do you have a pub date yet from Webreq for Widgets Requirements LC #2?
  48. # [13:11] * ArtB is wondering if I need to ping/prod them ...
  49. # [13:12] <marcos> yes and no. MikeSmith has done 99% of the work getting everything where it should be. Just need jules to put out the word on w3.org and to do the redirect on /TR/widget-reqs
  50. # [13:13] <ArtB> ok; let me know if you want me to push this
  51. # [13:14] <MikeSmith> marcos, ArtB - I'll ping Jules about it later
  52. # [13:14] <MikeSmith> he's based in the US so won't be online til fairly late
  53. # [13:14] <MikeSmith> ArtB: but feel free to do the same
  54. # [13:14] * ArtB thought Jules was in Europe; must be another MIT guy :)
  55. # [13:16] <MikeSmith> Jules is a Frenchman but based at MIT
  56. # [13:18] <anne> oh yay, XHR2 might get published
  57. # [13:19] <anne> about time I suppose though with pending updates maybe not wise?
  58. # [13:20] <ArtB> Anne, the CfC for XHR2 ends today; I don't expect any objections
  59. # [13:20] <ArtB> Are you saying you'd like to wait for some discussions before publishing a new WD?
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  66. # [15:54] <ArtB> widget people, check out this paper from Y! http://wiki.research.nokia.com/images/7/71/Mihalic.pdf
  67. # [15:57] <anne> ArtB, well, there's quite some work to be done
  68. # [15:58] <anne> e.g., solving some issues jonas raised as well as making it compatible with the HTML5 event loop
  69. # [16:01] <ArtB> Anne, after you mentioned "pending updates" above, I read the AC4CSR Implementations thread and now understand what you meant.
  70. # [16:24] <marcos> artb, reading the paper
  71. # [16:24] <marcos> from yahoo
  72. # [16:24] <marcos> thanks for the pointer
  73. # [16:30] <marcos> bah, I said all that back in 2007 in my PhD confirmation .
  74. # [16:32] <marcos> we meet all the requirements
  75. # [16:32] <marcos> presented
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  77. # [17:17] <ArtB> yes, he definitely used an old version of the spec :-(
  78. # [17:17] <ArtB> Is that the same guy that contacted you recently, Marcos?
  79. # [17:17] <marcos> no
  80. # [17:17] <marcos> it's someone else
  81. # [17:41] <arve> hm, what was the address of the logs for this channel again?
  82. # [17:41] <arve> nm, found them, http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/
  83. # [17:42] * arve changes topic to 'WAF moinmoin Wiki will be retired | http://www.w3.org/2006/appformats/group/ | if you have content there that you want preserved, you have one week to copy it off before the Wiki is deleted || Logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
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  93. # [19:03] <tlr> artb?
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  99. # [19:53] <ArtB> tlr, you still there?
  100. # [19:53] <tlr> hi art
  101. # [19:53] <tlr> I saw the Yahoo paper above
  102. # [19:53] <tlr> Are you in contact with the author, or know him?
  103. # [19:53] <ArtB> I don't know this Y! person but last week I sent YA request to Y!'s AC rep to ask them to join the WebApps WG.
  104. # [19:54] <ArtB> Perhaps after they become part of another W3C Member, it will be easier for them to join :-)
  105. # [19:55] <ArtB> But $70K/year less for the Consortium :-(
  106. # [19:55] <tlr> ouch
  107. # [19:55] * tlr that the financial services sector in the US is becoming eligible for affiliate fees these days... Government agencies, and all that.
  108. # [19:57] * ArtB thinks some of the financial companies won't have enough $ for a cup'a joe
  109. # [20:00] <tlr> yeah
  110. # [20:00] * ArtB thinks we need a JS Sound API so the http interface to IRC can use that API when someone pings me ...
  111. # [20:00] <tlr> urgh
  112. # [20:00] <tlr> I want an override!
  113. # [20:01] <ArtB> oh, it has to be configurable :)
  114. # [20:01] <tlr> yeah, about:config:org:w3:api:widget:v15:sound:gentle
  115. # [20:02] <tlr> ;-)
  116. # [20:02] <ArtB> maybe I can convince sysreq to rewrite the html/cgi interface in Flash :)
  117. # [20:03] <tlr> woah
  118. # [20:03] <tlr> (and I thought *I* was in a bad mood today)
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  121. # [21:35] <ArtB> now this is ridiculous <http://www.w3.org/mid/48D157B1.40004@disruptive-innovations.com>
  122. # [21:37] * ArtB oops; wrong channel; sorry for the Member-only link ...
  123. # [21:40] <shepazu> too late, ArtB, it's logged
  124. # [21:41] <shepazu> you should only send links to unlogged channels... good thing nobody ever makes that mistake
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  128. # [22:37] <marcos> The W3C is not a standards body.
  129. # [22:38] <tlr> errrrrrr, depends on what you mean by "standards body"
  130. # [22:38] <marcos> it's a "consortium"
  131. # [22:39] <marcos> There should not be any legal recourse for anyone not following a "recommendation"
  132. # [22:40] <marcos> It's wrong, if what Daniel implies is correct, that the EU would see the Rec docs as having some kind of legal standing.
  133. # [22:41] <marcos> ISO is a standards body. A standards body is one that is endorsed by governments.
  134. # [22:42] <marcos> The W3C is not endorsed by governments
  135. # [22:42] <marcos> AFAIK
  136. # [22:45] <hober> good thing everyone uses ISO HTML
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  138. # [22:46] <marcos> I imagine that's why ISO HTML was created. So government bodies and institutions could cite it.
  139. # [22:47] <marcos> and it's not really a matter of usage, it's a matter of standards
  140. # [22:47] * marcos gets off his high horse :)
  141. # [22:59] <tlr> let's just say "this story is very complex"
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