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  1. # Session Start: Thu Dec 04 00:00:00 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #webapps
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  28. # [09:30] <MikeSmith> .t PST
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  44. # [13:26] <MikeSmith> Lachy: you around?
  45. # [13:26] <MikeSmith> who was it that objected to the examples in the Selectors API spec?
  46. # [13:34] <MikeSmith> anne, anne, Lachy - so can I use the autoupdate feature to auto-download the latest nightly?
  47. # [13:35] <MikeSmith> or weekly, I mean?
  48. # [13:35] <MikeSmith> is there a difference between a "snapshot" and a weekly build?
  49. # [13:35] <anne> a snapshot presumably comes less or more than once a week
  50. # [13:36] <anne> other than that I assume they are the same
  51. # [13:36] <anne> but I have no intimate knowledge on the subject :)
  52. # [13:36] <anne> I also don't know about autoupdate specifics
  53. # [13:36] <MikeSmith> OK
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  55. # [13:40] <anne> MikeSmith, the blog post states "And for those of you who want every single snapshot release just enable the "Download All Snapshots" setting (opera:config#AutoUpdate)."
  56. # [13:40] <anne> also "snapshots contain the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, they may not work at all"
  57. # [13:40] <anne> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/12/03/peregrine-takes-flight-opera-10-0-alpha-is-here
  58. # [13:41] <Lachy> MikeSmith, yo
  59. # [13:42] <MikeSmith> Lachy: hey man. Can you remind me who was it that objected to the examples in the Selectors API spec?
  60. # [13:42] <MikeSmith> anne: thanks
  61. # [13:42] <Lachy> http://www.w3.org/mid/4926D823.6080605@lachy.id.au
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  63. # [13:45] <MikeSmith> Lachy: so seems like he is actually satisfied with your response, just "Perhaps I may think of and suggest a way to make the example more clear"
  64. # [13:45] <Lachy> yeah
  65. # [13:45] <MikeSmith> cool
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  67. # [13:52] <ArtB> MikeSmith - any news on scheduling a Director's call for the Selectors API Candidate?
  68. # [13:52] <MikeSmith> ArtB: have not gotten a date from Philippe
  69. # [13:53] <MikeSmith> will be talking with him in a bout 1 hour
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  74. # [15:00] <arve> I'll be a few minutes late for calling in
  75. # [15:03] <MikeSmith> arve: call is one hour from now, right?
  76. # [15:03] <ArtB> yes - one more hour
  77. # [15:04] <arve> bwah., I had, for some insane reason put 15.00 in my calendar
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  81. # [15:38] <arve> marcos: yt?
  82. # [15:39] <marcos> ya
  83. # [15:39] <arve> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/231
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  85. # [15:43] <marcos> Arve, what did you have in mind?
  86. # [15:44] <marcos> I have yet to see a good counter proposal to <feature> from anyone.
  87. # [15:44] <marcos> and its related APIs, of course
  88. # [15:44] <marcos> Though I'm sure the OMTP guys are cooking up something behind the scenes.
  89. # [15:44] <arve> I haven't seen anything either
  90. # [15:45] <arve> we could have an offtopic in London
  91. # [15:45] <marcos> Ah great! I didn't know you were going.
  92. # [15:45] <marcos> I was going to ask you if there was going to be any Opera representation there.
  93. # [15:46] <arve> I am
  94. # [15:47] <ArtB> Arve, Marcos, does 6.2. in http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#rules effectively mean "every resource is signed"?
  95. # [15:47] <arve> max is also there
  96. # [15:48] <marcos> Artb, yep.
  97. # [15:48] <arve> ArtB: yes
  98. # [15:48] <marcos> "Every resource, excluding any digital signature resource, in a widget resource must have a corresponding Reference element."
  99. # [15:48] <ArtB> So then we close ACTION 233, right?
  100. # [15:49] <ArtB> or is partial signing something different?
  101. # [15:50] <marcos> I don't think they are related. I think 233 is talking about something related to the API
  102. # [15:50] * ArtB thinks partial signing means some resources in the widget resource may not be signed
  103. # [15:50] <arve> tlr: I don't understand your question, even
  104. # [15:51] <tlr> <script src="htp://..."> in a signed widget
  105. # [15:51] <tlr> is that an error or not?
  106. # [15:51] * marcos is lost
  107. # [15:51] <tlr> a widget includes an HTML document
  108. # [15:51] <arve> a security model defined in the signed package should define that
  109. # [15:51] <tlr> arve, then that's your answer
  110. # [15:51] <tlr> ;-)
  111. # [15:51] * ArtB thinks the trust model is such that if the widget resource is signed, we don't have to worry about what its resources indirectly reference ...
  112. # [15:52] <tlr> well, the effect is pretty close to having a partially signed widget
  113. # [15:52] * marcos found again.
  114. # [15:52] <ArtB> tlr, please defined "partially signed widget"
  115. # [15:52] <tlr> "some piece of the widget isn't covered by a signature"
  116. # [15:53] * ArtB wonders about us going down the transitive closure path ...
  117. # [15:53] <marcos> ACTION: Marcos to include how to deal with <script src="http://..."> in a signed widget in one of the specs
  118. # [15:53] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  119. # [15:53] <trackbot> Created ACTION-283 - Include how to deal with <script src=\"http://...\"> in a signed widget in one of the specs [on Marcos Caceres - due 2008-12-11].
  120. # [15:54] <arve> I think this is a prime example for discussion next week, btw
  121. # [15:56] * ArtB noticed when he said close ACTION 233 above he meant 163
  122. # [15:58] <marcos> ah
  123. # [15:59] <marcos> well, 233 can be closed, as Arve said.
  124. # [15:59] <marcos> I think 163 can be closed, if Arve gives us a nod.
  125. # [16:10] <arve> I'll be calling in now
  126. # [16:11] <marcos> Arve, note change of passcode
  127. # [16:12] <marcos> 26633
  128. # [16:38] <arve> ArtB: I'm running out of time (I have to leave in fifteen minutes, at latest, as I have a train to catch that I can't miss)
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  140. # [20:21] <anne> yes
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