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  1. # Session Start: Tue Dec 16 00:00:00 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #webapps
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  29. # [13:14] <arve> ArtB: I'm going to have to send my regrets for tomorrow
  30. # [13:15] <arve> I'm, of all things, attending a two-day seminar on rhetorics
  31. # [13:16] <ArtB> Arve: OK
  32. # [13:16] <ArtB> Are you OK with publishing a LC of the P&C spec?
  33. # [13:16] <arve> Yes, I am
  34. # [13:17] <arve> There is one outstanding topic which I'm not comfortable with, though
  35. # [13:17] <ArtB> If you can't participate in the voice conf, please consider responding to the related CfC
  36. # [13:17] <ArtB> oh. what's that?
  37. # [13:17] <arve> wid
  38. # [13:17] <arve> Optional. A valid URI that denotes a unique identifier for the widget.
  39. # [13:18] <arve> I'd rather name it differently
  40. # [13:19] <arve> marcos: yt?
  41. # [13:19] <ArtB> like what?
  42. # [13:19] <marcos> harro
  43. # [13:19] <ArtB> sorry, Arve - I mean what name(s) do you prefer?
  44. # [13:20] <marcos> I thought you liked wid. Should I drop the word "unique"?
  45. # [13:23] <arve> 1) What, exactly, is wrong with 'id'
  46. # [13:23] <arve> 2) I'd rather prefer a plaintext word
  47. # [13:23] <arve> 'identifier'
  48. # [13:23] <marcos> 1)I conflicts with XML id, it's not used for CSS matching.
  49. # [13:24] <marcos> I'm ok with changing it to identifier
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  51. # [13:50] <arve> 1) No, it doesn't
  52. # [13:51] <arve> id, non-prefixed is in the null namespace
  53. # [13:51] <arve> xml:id is in the http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace
  54. # [13:51] <arve> 2) CSS matching capabilities is really not a disadvantage
  55. # [13:51] <marcos> I thought everyone bitched and moaned about xbl having defined id and that the world would end if it remained.
  56. # [13:52] <arve> then they should have bitched and moaned about xhtml 1.0
  57. # [13:52] <arve> or atom
  58. # [13:52] <arve> err, in atom it's an element, sorry
  59. # [13:52] <marcos> the argument there goes that it's good for CSS, it think.
  60. # [13:53] <arve> my main beef, though, is with 'wid'
  61. # [13:53] <marcos> I'd also prefer id. I've changed it to identifier.
  62. # [13:55] <marcos> We could run with id and see if the sky falls.
  63. # [13:55] <marcos> I'll ask in the html-wg channel.
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  65. # [14:01] * marcos still has no idea where Window Modes are going to be defined.
  66. # [14:11] <MikeSmith> marcos: I think it should be called either widdle or piddle
  67. # [14:11] <MikeSmith> or pp]
  68. # [14:20] <arve> marcos: identifier, as I proposed, has concerns for us
  69. # [14:20] <arve> because identifier represents a runtime identifier
  70. # [14:22] <arve> s/runtime/instance/
  71. # [14:23] <arve> marcos: do you have a pointer for the XBL discussion?
  72. # [14:25] <MikeSmith> how about "dogtag"?
  73. # [14:26] <Dashiva> greasemonkey uses "namespace" :)
  74. # [14:27] <MikeSmith> heheh
  75. # [14:27] <MikeSmith> Dashiva: that's sound like a clear winner to me, hands-down
  76. # [14:38] <arve> shebang
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  78. # [15:29] <marcos> I've renamed it "mike's-greasy-dogtag-bang-baby-id" to accommodate everyone.
  79. # [15:32] <MikeSmith> sweet
  80. # [15:32] <MikeSmith> I feel like I'm finally making a contribution to web standards and the success of the open web platform
  81. # [15:33] <marcos> hehe
  82. # [15:40] <marcos> yay! we have our first easter egg :D
  83. # [15:43] <marcos> Arve, changed it back to id
  84. # [15:43] <marcos> let the apocalypse begin
  85. # [15:55] <arve> marcos: did you call me from an aussie number?
  86. # [15:55] <marcos> no, not I
  87. # [15:56] <arve> nm, it was actually an indian number
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  89. # [16:01] <arve> marcos: we'll see if the apocalypse arrives
  90. # [16:02] * marcos wonders, is this just too lazy: "To verify that a Zip archive and its file entries conform to this specification (and hence can be treated as a widget resource), a widget user agent must perform the following checks. This specification does not provide the technical details of how to actually perform the checks. Instead, implementers must use the technical details in the Zip specification to perfom the checks. "
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  111. # [23:32] <Hixie> heycam: typo in webidl -- step 24 of 4.4.3. Host object [[Put]] method -- s/named/indexed/
  112. # [23:33] <heycam> Hixie, thanks
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  114. # [23:36] <sicking> anne, ping
  115. # [23:37] <Hixie> heycam: i would appreciate your review of my nect html5 checkin btw -- i'm going through doing idl stuff
  116. # [23:37] <Hixie> i'll let you know when i check in
  117. # [23:54] <Hixie> heycam: http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=2535&to=2536
  118. # [23:55] <Hixie> crap he went away
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