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  4. # [00:29] <ArtB> The dude looks like Fester :-)
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  11. # [04:34] <Hixie> anyone know what the status is of the file api?
  12. # [04:34] <Hixie> i have some dependencies in html5 on that spec and i have a note here saying file api will be ready by end jan 2009
  13. # [04:34] <Hixie> but it doesn't seem to have progressed since the last time i looked at it
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  17. # [08:04] <MikeSmith> Hixie: do you mean the File Upload API, or something else?
  18. # [08:05] <Hixie> yeah
  19. # [08:05] <MikeSmith> Arun is back working on that, after being away
  20. # [09:48] <anne> I haven't seen anything though
  21. # [09:49] <anne> last I asked he would have something by the end of January
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  36. # [14:41] <MikeSmith> ArtB, chaals: Arun is back working on the File Upload spec, right?
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  38. # [16:29] * arve would like to see File upload and the definition of File split to separate specs
  39. # [16:29] <anne> why make such editorial quibbles if there's nothing much done yet at all?
  40. # [16:34] <MikeSmith> beats me
  41. # [16:50] <arve> file has uses outside of file upload controls
  42. # [16:51] <arve> my point isn't neccesarily the split, but that we end having one definition covering both cases
  43. # [16:55] <anne> sure, agreed that'd we want the platform to make some amount of sense :)
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  69. # [22:24] <sicking> anne, ping
  70. # [22:24] <sicking> smaug, still there?
  71. # [22:25] <smaug> yup
  72. # [22:25] <sicking> smaug, you had a reference to where the XHR spec required no events for sync loads?
  73. # [22:25] <smaug> progress events
  74. # [22:25] <sicking> smaug, sorry, was upgrading my windows install so had to drop out
  75. # [22:26] <sicking> smaug, that too :)
  76. # [22:26] <smaug> sicking: so for upload "When the steps for the send() method say to make upload progress notifications user agents must, if *async* is true, follow these rules"
  77. # [22:26] <smaug> and there is something similar for download
  78. # [22:30] <sicking> hum, weird, i wonder why
  79. # [22:30] <smaug> why not
  80. # [22:30] <smaug> IMHO sync should be really sync
  81. # [22:30] <smaug> no events during that
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  83. # [22:30] <sicking> sync != no callbacks
  84. # [22:31] <sicking> sync just means that the operation finishes before the function returns
  85. # [22:33] <smaug> well, you can always use async if you need callbacks
  86. # [22:34] <sicking> sure, i just don't see a reason to leave them out
  87. # [22:34] <sicking> don't care too much i care, i guess you can argue that they are less useful and it makes sense to leave them out as a perf optimization
  88. # [22:35] <sicking> but it's a bit inconsistent if we send some events (readystatechange) but not others
  89. # [22:35] <smaug> we (gecko) don't send even readystatechange
  90. # [22:36] <sicking> yeah, but i think the spec says to
  91. # [22:37] <smaug> is says so yes
  92. # [22:37] <smaug> perhaps the spec should be changed
  93. # [22:39] <smaug> erm, is says -> it says
  94. # [22:40] <sicking> smaug, i'm writing a mail to the list
  95. # [22:42] <smaug> sicking: webkit doesn't seem to dispatch progress events when sync
  96. # [22:43] <sicking> smaug, so we do a little bit of either :)
  97. # [22:43] <sicking> smaug, for normal XHRs we don't, but for XHRs inside workers we do
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