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  1. # Session Start: Tue Mar 10 00:00:01 2009
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  4. # [00:06] <sicking> annevk, for what it's worth, i'd be fine with removing support for redirecting preflighted events from this version of the spec. I'm not sure there are any implementations out there
  5. # [00:07] <sicking> annevk, last i heard from Sam he said he needed to redo redirects in safari, though that's a while ago so it's possible that he's fixed them now
  6. # [00:07] <sicking> annevk, firefox 3.1 will not have support for redirects of preflighted requests
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  29. # [06:09] <MikeSmith> heycam: http://nwalsh.com/docs/tutorials/extreme04/slides.pdf
  30. # [06:09] <MikeSmith> maybe
  31. # [06:10] <heycam> could be good, thanks MikeSmith
  32. # [06:15] <MikeSmith> heycam: also, the current edition of Sal Mangano's XSLT Cookbook
  33. # [06:32] <MikeSmith> heycam: http://nwalsh.com/docs/tutorials/extreme2006/plain.html
  34. # [06:34] <heycam> looks good too, thanks
  35. # [06:36] <MikeSmith> heycam: @ndw on twitter
  36. # [06:37] <heycam> will prod him if the slides/book aren't sufficient :)
  37. # [06:37] * heycam wants to rewrite the svg spec generation in xslt 2
  38. # [06:37] <heycam> or at least see if that's something feasible and useful
  39. # [06:37] <heycam> instead of the xslt+perl combo it is now
  40. # [06:37] <heycam> *xslt1
  41. # [06:42] <MikeSmith> heycam: just as far as anecdotal data about how much less painful XSLT 2.0 is than XSLT 1.0: the XSLT 1.0 version of the DocBook XSL stylesheets that Norm wrote required use of something like 7 different Java extension functions
  42. # [06:42] <MikeSmith> but with his XSLT 2.0 rewrite of those, he was able to get rid of all but one of those
  43. # [06:43] <MikeSmith> (because XSLT 2.0 provides native mechanisms for all the things he had needed the custom functions for before)
  44. # [06:46] <MikeSmith> the extensions were for things like adding callout bugs to graphics, adding line numbers to program listings, inserting text from external files (e.g., non-XML program source-code files)
  45. # [06:48] <MikeSmith> the only one I think is still needed with the XSLT 2.0 rewrite is an extension for examining the intrinsic size of bitmap images
  46. # [06:49] <MikeSmith> which uses java.awt.image.ImageObserver
  47. # [06:52] <heycam> good to know
  48. # [06:52] <heycam> i think even just the ability to use sequences, the expanded set of builtin functions, and user defined functions will let me move a lot of the perl into the stylesheet
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  50. # [06:56] <MikeSmith> heycam: if/when you do it, you should keep notes and write up a "lessons learned" after
  51. # [06:56] <heycam> i'll try to do so
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  70. # [13:17] <arve> ArtB: yt?
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  76. # [14:03] <ArtB> Arve, here now; been in meetings
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  81. # [14:17] <arve> just wondering what to reply to Rainier
  82. # [14:17] <arve> the biggest problem being that different implementations may have different security models
  83. # [14:17] <arve> if a random package of files then contains an index.html file, it may end up running with a security policy it was never intended to
  84. # [14:25] <ArtB> arve, I don't quite understand his point
  85. # [14:25] <ArtB> Did someone assert config.xml is some type of security solution?
  86. # [14:26] <arve> he did, I think
  87. # [14:26] <chaals> I think his point is that if adding config.xml is considered to solve some kind of security problem, you just add one to your favourite maliicious app.
  88. # [14:26] <chaals> but yeah, I don't think anyone thinks it provides particular security solutions, just identifies something as a widget, right?
  89. # [14:28] <chaals> ArtB: i think we should run a cfc for progress -> last call...
  90. # [14:28] <chaals> ... what say you?
  91. # [14:28] <arve> it also makes sure that a user agent being passed a zip file won't ever try to interpret it as a widget
  92. # [14:28] <chaals> (I think I have resolved hixie's issues although got no response on that. Hixie? Have you had time to confirm or deny?)
  93. # [14:28] <ArtB> chaals, no immediate objection from me
  94. # [14:29] <chaals> ok, unless I get something from Ian, I will do that shortly.
  95. # [14:29] <ArtB> ok
  96. # [14:29] <chaals> I also have a draft of clipboard-apis that should be posted by tonight
  97. # [14:29] <chaals> (it doesn't have much new, it is just bringing it to life)
  98. # [14:30] <chaals> needs some more bringing up to date with the rest of the world, but would be good to get a public draft of that soon.
  99. # [14:30] <chaals> (target: a public draft by March 31, an interesting draft in Q2)
  100. # [14:31] * chaals ehads out for some fresh air and a walk ... (shopping)
  101. # [14:36] <Marcos> Mafx: > -> many parameters of type DOMString have null as their initial value. Is that the string "null", or just null?
  102. # [14:36] <Marcos> how do I make that more clear?
  103. # [14:36] <Marcos> any idea?
  104. # [14:36] <Marcos> oh, and it's just null
  105. # [14:37] <Marcos> not "null"
  106. # [14:37] <Marcos> Also "> ->It is never actually said that in order to be correct, a configuration document must be a valid configuration document"
  107. # [14:38] <Marcos> not sure what to add to the spec
  108. # [14:38] <Marcos> ah crap\
  109. # [14:38] <Marcos> wrong channel
  110. # [14:44] <Marcos> Heycam, any ETA on LC for WebIDL?
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  121. # [18:22] <gsnedders> Marcos wanted me today but never tried to get me
  122. # [18:22] <gsnedders> Silly Marcos
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  128. # [22:22] <heycam> Marcos, a couple of months maybe?
  129. # [22:23] <Marcos> ok, just wondering
  130. # [22:23] <Marcos> thanks heycam
  131. # [22:24] <gsnedders> Marcos: pong
  132. # [22:25] <Marcos> gsnedders: pingopongo
  133. # [22:25] <gsnedders> Marcos: You wanted me today
  134. # [22:25] <Marcos> I did, but now it's too late. Can I grab you tomorrow?
  135. # [22:25] * gsnedders headdesks
  136. # [22:25] <gsnedders> If you _actually_ grab me
  137. # [22:26] * Marcos has hands in all sort of strange places... beware
  138. # [22:26] * gsnedders is scared
  139. # [22:26] <Marcos> good
  140. # [22:26] <Marcos> hehe
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  142. # [22:28] <gsnedders> Marcos: http://stuff.gsnedders.com/w3c.refer
  143. # [22:28] <Marcos> ooohhhh
  144. # [22:28] <Marcos> nice
  145. # [22:29] <Marcos> I'll check it all out tomorrow. Great work gsnedders! let me know if you need me to send you more refs
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