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  9. # [07:05] <heycam> anyone interested in adding multitouch events to DOM 3 Events?
  10. # [07:06] <heycam> like the touchstart/touchend/etc. ones you can use on the iphone
  11. # [07:06] <heycam> (or perhaps a separate spec for it)
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  42. # [14:31] * darobin waves to the webapps people
  43. # [14:35] * marcos drags darobin back to #wam, "pay attention, you!" :)
  44. # [14:36] <darobin> marcos: I'm the guy who got bother with sudo and ran everything as root for years on end — you don't want me talking about security :)
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  46. # [14:37] <marcos> hehe
  47. # [14:41] <darobin> marcos: you in an echo chamber?
  48. # [14:41] <darobin> calling from the bathroom?
  49. # [14:41] <marcos> it's our cone of silence here at Opera.
  50. # [14:41] <marcos> hehe, busted
  51. # [14:42] <darobin> you in the Oslo office?
  52. # [14:42] <marcos> yeah
  53. # [14:42] <darobin> well, on the plus side there's Gammel Dansk
  54. # [15:11] <marcos> darobin: please take a close look at Marks proposal, let me know ASAP if you have any objections
  55. # [15:12] <darobin> will do
  56. # [15:12] <marcos> I am currently working on the section that are affected by the proposal
  57. # [15:13] <marcos> I can start integrating it
  58. # [15:14] <marcos> darobin: also, if you have a good understanding of URIs and XML/HTML base then I might get your assistance with the i18n model
  59. # [15:14] <darobin> I'm not the pro on that, but I can look into it
  60. # [15:15] <darobin> the problem is, though, that I can only start work on this next Monday as I'm in Prague tomorrow and have to finish up stuff today
  61. # [15:15] <marcos> no probs
  62. # [15:15] <marcos> I'm working 15 hours days on this ATM
  63. # [15:15] <marcos> if I get to the feature and screenshot section before monday I'll write them up
  64. # [15:16] <darobin> I'm working 15 hour days, but not yet on this :)
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  66. # [15:16] <marcos> hehe
  67. # [15:16] <darobin> don't hesitate to focus on the rest, I can pick that up when I come back
  68. # [15:16] <darobin> I might be able to do it on the plane
  69. # [15:16] <marcos> I'm doing this incrementally, finishing one section at a time. I'm currently trying to finish the elements definitions
  70. # [15:17] <marcos> I'll check in by the end of today
  71. # [15:17] <darobin> okay, I don't really care anyway, just tell me monday what's not finished
  72. # [15:25] <anne> darobin, is your presentation taped?
  73. # [15:25] <anne> darobin, it sounded like it would be fun
  74. # [15:25] <darobin> I don't know, maybe
  75. # [15:25] <anne> darobin, the one about mistakes, anyway
  76. # [15:25] <darobin> oh, I thought you meant the one about how cool SVG is :-D
  77. # [15:25] <anne> darobin, :p
  78. # [15:25] <anne> darobin, you'll put up slides?
  79. # [15:25] <darobin> it's a shopping list, really
  80. # [15:26] <darobin> slides and the paper will be published I think
  81. # [15:26] <darobin> but it's less fun without the beer
  82. # [15:26] <anne> there's beer in my fridge :p
  83. # [15:27] <darobin> it's not Prague beer
  84. # [15:27] <darobin> heck, it's Dutch beer!
  85. # [15:28] <darobin> Heineken — Dutch for Budweiser
  86. # [15:29] <anne> agreed, that's why I usually have import
  87. # [15:32] * ArtB this is precious: Heineken — Dutch for Budweiser :-)!
  88. # [15:32] <darobin> :)
  89. # [15:32] <darobin> anne: still, you should've come to Prague
  90. # [15:33] <darobin> it's a cool conference
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  98. # [18:12] <arve> I don't get the i18n's rationale here
  99. # [18:12] <arve> "So it makes coordination a little difficult when all the different language texts are in the same file"
  100. # [18:13] <marcos> arve, I think we will go with this one... it saves everyone a bunch of work
  101. # [18:13] <marcos> though all the file localization is still a PITA
  102. # [18:13] <arve> indeed
  103. # [18:14] <marcos> at least is one less thing to worry about
  104. # [18:14] * marcos hopes we do go with this one... because he kinda just ripped through the whole spec and changed everything
  105. # [18:15] <marcos> :P
  106. # [18:17] <ArtB> so yesterday's ED of the P&C spec assumed a localized version of config.xml would be placed in locale dirs and today's version of the P&C spec assumes there will only be one config.xml file?
  107. # [18:20] * tlr-bbiab notes that having separate translations in separate files is hugely helpful when managing translation efforts. Been there, done that.
  108. # [18:20] * tlr-bbiab also notes that the main config file's tiny bit of translation isn't worrisome to him
  109. # [18:20] * tlr-bbiab however not an i18n expert by any means
  110. # [18:23] <ArtB> tlr, been there too (localizing HP-UX's Visual User Environment about 20 years ago) and can show you some scars :-)
  111. # [18:23] <tlr-bbiab> who hasn't been there at one point
  112. # [18:23] <tlr-bbiab> gettext.....
  113. # [18:23] <ArtB> presumably though, if the app had a who bunch of localized text they just put it in a separate file in the localized folders
  114. # [18:23] <tlr-bbiab> (but then again, that's just 10 years ago and new-fashioned by your standards, I suspect)
  115. # [18:24] <tlr-bbiab> right
  116. # [18:24] <marcos> artb, that is correct
  117. # [18:25] * marcos about to take thousands of developers there too! feel the pain :D
  118. # [18:25] <Dashiva> It is dark. You are likely to be eaten by a l10n.
  119. # [18:25] <tlr-bbiab> oh, and don't forget to make the finnish and norvegian translations mandatory while you're on it.
  120. # [18:25] <tlr-bbiab> and en_AU
  121. # [18:26] <marcos> hehe
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