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  1. # Session Start: Wed Apr 22 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #webapps
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  28. # [10:42] <Marcos> MikeSmith: thanks!
  29. # [10:45] <MikeSmith> Marcos: ? what for?
  30. # [10:45] <Marcos> MikeSmith: just thanks... thanks for being you
  31. # [10:45] <Marcos> :)
  32. # [10:45] <MikeSmith> heh
  33. # [10:45] <Marcos> oh, and http://ajaxian.com/archives/an-introduction-to-w3c-widgets
  34. # [10:45] * MikeSmith pats himself on the back
  35. # [10:46] <MikeSmith> Marcos: yeah, cool to see Widgets highlighted at Ajaxian
  36. # [10:46] <MikeSmith> and PPK posting was great too
  37. # [10:47] <Marcos> well, PPK's post has about as much relationship to current spec as apples do to oranges, but I'm not complaining :) \
  38. # [10:48] <Marcos> regardless, It's awesome to have a dude of his caliber talking about widgets
  39. # [10:48] <Marcos> Vodafone is investing big into widgets.
  40. # [10:49] <Marcos> I imagine to hire darobin must be a 7 figure deal, at least :)
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  42. # [10:58] <MikeSmith> Marcos: yeah, for his booze-and-hooker budget alone
  43. # [10:58] <MikeSmith> eep
  44. # [10:58] <MikeSmith> htought we were on #wam
  45. # [10:58] <MikeSmith> ah well
  46. # [10:59] * MikeSmith suspects somebody gonna highlight that in krijnh logs and add it to the list of complaints about me
  47. # [11:00] <MikeSmith> it's called a humor, folks
  48. # [11:00] <MikeSmith> or attempt at humor
  49. # [11:00] <MikeSmith> a sense of humor
  50. # [11:00] <MikeSmith> try getting one
  51. # [11:01] <Marcos> hehe
  52. # [11:01] <Marcos> What? doesn't everyone get a hooker and booze budget?
  53. # [11:01] <MikeSmith> Marcos: I got one
  54. # [11:01] <MikeSmith> but it's a discount one
  55. # [11:01] <Marcos> hehe
  56. # [11:01] <Marcos> argh... nasty
  57. # [11:03] <MikeSmith> anyway, times when I go back to look through krijnh logs (to get links or whatever), I sometimes (often) notice that somebody has highlighted potentially objectionable stuff that I've said here, or on #whatwg or on #html-wg
  58. # [11:03] <MikeSmith> well, plainly objectionable stuff
  59. # [11:03] <MikeSmith> or smartassed stuff
  60. # [11:03] <MikeSmith> which ain't hard to find in the logs
  61. # [11:04] <MikeSmith> it's just that the highlighted stuff is not all my objectionable stuff
  62. # [11:04] <MikeSmith> which would make half the logs highlighted
  63. # [11:04] <MikeSmith> it only gets highlighted when it's about specific topics, or about specific groups
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  79. # [14:03] * ArtB notes Marcos' L10N doc needs a s/i18n/l10n/g pass
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  90. # [14:39] * Topic is 'Web Applications WG (this channel is logged at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/)'
  91. # [14:39] * Set by ArtB on Wed Mar 11 20:47:52
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  93. # [14:47] <Marcos> ArtB: sent
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  95. # [14:51] <ArtB> Marcos; ok
  96. # [14:51] <ArtB> Marcos, from a Requirements PoV, what is the key difference(s) between A1 and A2?
  97. # [14:52] <ArtB> It appears the answser is support for sub-lang directories
  98. # [14:52] <Marcos> I don't follow, can you please elaborate
  99. # [14:54] <ArtB> If proposals A1 and A2 are answers to some question (=requirement(s) in this case, presumably), then what exactly is the question?
  100. # [14:57] <Marcos> The questions: 1) how do you represent a localized folder (answer: language tag), 2) is there any relationship between folders, if they are language tags?
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  103. # [15:01] <ArtB> re q#1 - we are going to reuse some existing spec for that, right?
  104. # [15:01] <Marcos> The difference is, as you say, support for sub-tag directories support
  105. # [15:01] <Marcos> strike that last support
  106. # [15:01] <Marcos> re q#1, yes
  107. # [15:01] <ArtB> and that spec is what?
  108. # [15:02] <ArtB> the BCP47?
  109. # [15:02] <Marcos> argh... hang on, getting lost here. you mean for the language tags?
  110. # [15:03] <ArtB> if q#1 really an open question for us?
  111. # [15:03] <Marcos> for naming folders as language tags, we use http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry
  112. # [15:04] <Marcos> For processing folders to find the matching ones, we use BCP47
  113. # [15:04] <Marcos> ArtB: question 1 is 50% open.
  114. # [15:05] <Marcos> If we agree that the complexity is worth it, then we go with A2.
  115. # [15:06] <Marcos> A2 is what is in the P&C spec
  116. # [15:07] <Marcos> but for the purpose of i18n.html we must pretend the P&C spec does not exist
  117. # [15:12] <ArtB> the fallback model for A2 (i.e. zh-Hans-CN -> zh-Hans -> zh) is defined by BCP47, right?
  118. # [15:13] <Marcos> artb, yes. It's called "lookup"
  119. # [15:15] <ArtB> so for the purposes of those that are already familiar with P&C, A1 versus A2 is whether to keep the model as currently defined in P+C or reduce the level of functionality
  120. # [15:15] <Marcos> exactly
  121. # [15:16] <ArtB> btw, I think Jere's comments on A1 and A2 may reflect a much earlier version
  122. # [15:17] <ArtB> so A1 basically says there is no "lookup" ala BCP47 done at all, right?
  123. # [15:19] <Marcos> exactly
  124. # [15:19] <Marcos> it's just one shot match
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  126. # [15:24] <Marcos> Artb, do you want to talk about the other proposals too?
  127. # [15:25] <ArtB> Marcos, I need to take a short break and then I'll resume with B1/2
  128. # [15:26] <Marcos> Artb, I have to go (helping Lachy make pastry, of all things!... long story). I'll be back in a few hours. Please draw up more questions, this is very use ful.
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