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  40. # [13:10] <Marcos> argh, where is gsnedders.... why does anolis use the HTML5 doctype
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  42. # [13:53] <ArtB> arve, marcos - have you and Jean-Gui worked out a plan to get Widgets A&E published today?
  43. # [13:54] * Marcos getting it pub ready right now
  44. # [13:54] <Marcos> he said he would publish it
  45. # [13:54] <ArtB> nice!
  46. # [13:54] <Marcos> as long as it is pub ready
  47. # [13:54] <Marcos> it's set to go
  48. # [13:54] <ArtB> :)
  49. # [13:54] <ArtB> after you are done your tweaks, please ping him
  50. # [13:55] <ArtB> and cc the rest of us on the related email thread
  51. # [13:55] <Marcos> will do
  52. # [13:55] <ArtB> thanks!
  53. # [13:55] <Marcos> just submitted last draft
  54. # [13:55] <Marcos> so good timing on your part
  55. # [13:55] <Marcos> :D
  56. # [13:57] <Marcos> Artb, it's in the mail.
  57. # [13:58] <Marcos> Argh... gotta.... find...time... to ... publish.... updates!!!!
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  63. # [14:08] <Marcos> Arve, is the intention to move the Window Modes APIs to the A&E spec?
  64. # [14:18] <arve> Marcos: we could, but I'm not sure it's a terrific idea
  65. # [14:20] <Marcos> arve, right...
  66. # [14:31] <ArtB> marcos, arve, can you guys Live With a SHOULD re ECDSA for widgets digsig?
  67. # [14:31] <Marcos> no
  68. # [14:31] <Marcos> probably not
  69. # [14:32] <Marcos> Like I said, it's in or out. Group needs to make a choice. Opera does not think is needed at this point
  70. # [14:32] <ArtB> You know what Elasta' Girl would say (to Mr. Incredible)?
  71. # [14:33] <Marcos> nope
  72. # [14:33] <Marcos> "Listen to Marcos"?
  73. # [14:33] <ArtB> "You need to be be more <em>flexible</em>" :-)
  74. # [14:33] <Marcos> hehe
  75. # [14:33] <ArtB> I agree with the iop concerns you raise
  76. # [14:33] <Marcos> I'm pretty sure she would say "Listen to Marcos"
  77. # [14:33] <ArtB> lol
  78. # [14:33] <Marcos> hehe
  79. # [14:34] <arve> I'm also with Marcos (and the developers) here, it's not needed
  80. # [14:34] <arve> I'd revisit for later
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  89. # [16:08] <MikeSmith> the terms "new casters" and "weather forecasters" are odd and should be replaced later in the A&E spec intro with something not odd
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  105. # [17:38] <hendry> why is it, when i google public-webapps i don't get w3c archives. instead some mail-archive stuff. urgh
  106. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> hendry: ask google
  107. # [17:43] <hendry> where is localstorage key/value stuff defined. asking google doesn't help.
  108. # [17:44] <MikeSmith> hendry: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-workers-20090423/
  109. # [17:44] <MikeSmith> woops
  110. # [17:44] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-webstorage-20090423/
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  112. # [17:48] <hendry> MikeSmith: thanks man
  113. # [17:48] <MikeSmith> np
  114. # [17:49] <MikeSmith> hendry: so I'm pondering how feasible it would be to implement a browser-based HTML5 validator in Javascript
  115. # [17:50] <MikeSmith> I found a couple of Javascript-based general RelaxNG validators
  116. # [17:50] <MikeSmith> or attempts at such at least
  117. # [17:51] <MikeSmith> neither seems to actually work for checking HTML documents at leaast
  118. # [17:52] <annevk> hsivonen used GWT to get an HTML parser written in JavaScript
  119. # [17:52] <annevk> prolly works for the validator too
  120. # [17:53] <MikeSmith> interesting
  121. # [17:57] <MikeSmith> annevk: the value of completely JS-based validator would be that it could also be run locally and offline in a browser
  122. # [17:58] <annevk> it would likely hang the browser too if you load e.g. HTML5 with it :)
  123. # [17:58] <MikeSmith> without any content you want to validate being sent to a third-party site
  124. # [17:58] <MikeSmith> well, yeah, there is that
  125. # [17:58] <MikeSmith> though it could use stream-based processing just as v.nu does
  126. # [17:59] <hendry> MikeSmith: whoa, you're one step ahead of me there. I was thinking of getting validation into Unix userland
  127. # [18:00] <hendry> I was playing around with parsing html in JS today, and I was impressed how fast/good Jquery was
  128. # [18:00] <hendry> so I guess it must be possible
  129. # [18:04] <MikeSmith> would also need to do the datatype checking in JS, but one of the JS RelaxNG developers also created a datatype checker in JS
  130. # [18:12] <hendry> MikeSmith: referring to http://code.google.com/p/jsrelaxngvalidator/ or something else?
  131. # [18:12] <MikeSmith> hendry: that's the one
  132. # [18:12] <MikeSmith> there's another thing called "Mozile"
  133. # [18:13] <MikeSmith> it's a browser-based editor, but as far as can see it implements its own RelaxNG validator
  134. # [18:28] <hendry> good idea
  135. # [18:28] <hendry> for an editor to do that
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  137. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> Glazman's editor does RelaxNG-based validation also
  138. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> but I don't know if it implements that in JS
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  140. # [18:51] <MikeSmith> where TF is marcos?
  141. # [18:51] <MikeSmith> Widgets A&E spec still gots borken links
  142. # [18:59] <ArtB_> MikeSmith, if Marcos can't fix this link today, does that mean the doc will not be published until next week?
  143. # [19:00] * ArtB_ is now known as ArtB
  144. # [19:02] <MikeSmith> ArtB: I'm fixiing it now
  145. # [19:10] <ArtB> Thanks MikeSmith!
  146. # [19:10] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-apis-20090423/ is live now
  147. # [19:10] <MikeSmith> TR/ symlink will be updated shortly
  148. # [19:20] <MikeSmith> ArtB: http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets-apis/ now points to latest as well
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  150. # [19:54] <ArtB> Awesome MikeSmith! I just updated WebApps' PubStatus page to reflect our 5 pubs today (http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/PubStatus).
  151. # [19:54] <ArtB> Good job Hixie, Marcos and Arve!
  152. # [19:57] <MikeSmith> we got whupped by the XML Core WG, though
  153. # [19:57] <MikeSmith> the published eight specs on one day
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  155. # [20:09] <ArtB> it's the quality that counts :)
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  162. # [21:54] <Marcos> MikeSmith: I owe you a beer!
  163. # [21:56] <annevk> we all do
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