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  1. # Session Start: Sun Apr 26 00:00:00 2009
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  30. # [17:51] <Marcos_> Anne, yt?
  31. # [17:51] <Marcos_> or annevk?
  32. # [17:52] <Marcos_> Anyone know which working groups at the W3C operate in private?
  33. # [17:55] <Marcos_> Looking at TPAC Efficient XML Interchange WG, and XSL WG seem to be "secret/evil" groups?
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  36. # [18:18] <annevk> Marcos_, PFWG works in private
  37. # [18:18] <Marcos_> annevk: what' the PFWG?
  38. # [18:19] <Marcos_> annevk: googled
  39. # [18:19] <Marcos_> so never mind
  40. # [18:21] * gsnedders notes that Marcos_ hasn't replied to his email yet
  41. # [18:34] <Marcos_> gsnedders: it's got a big star next to it, so I'll get to it.
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  43. # [18:48] <Marcos_> gsnedders: enjoyed your essay btw. Haven't finished it though, as it was rather long...
  44. # [18:49] <gsnedders> Marcos_: :)
  45. # [18:49] <Marcos_> gsnedders: regardless, found it though provoking
  46. # [18:49] <gsnedders> Marcos_: How long was the draft I sent you?
  47. # [18:49] <Marcos_> 5000+ words
  48. # [18:49] <gsnedders> Ah.
  49. # [18:49] <gsnedders> That doesn't help :)
  50. # [18:49] <Marcos_> hehe
  51. # [18:49] <gsnedders> The final copy was 4494, IIRC
  52. # [18:49] <gsnedders> (the limit was 4500)
  53. # [18:49] <Marcos_> cool, send it :)
  54. # [18:49] <Marcos_> why do they make you write soooo much?
  55. # [18:49] <Marcos_> that's really bad
  56. # [18:50] <gsnedders> (A draft I had on the day before I had to hand it in was exactly 4,500, but editing it to make sense in one or two places made is a bit less.)
  57. # [18:50] <Marcos_> University assignments in australia are usually no more than 2000 words. An honours thesis is around 10,000
  58. # [18:51] <gsnedders> Here university assignments are frequently around 5,000
  59. # [18:51] <Marcos_> As someone who worked for a number of years as a university lecturer, I seriously doubt any of that is actually getting read
  60. # [18:52] <gsnedders> As someone who is a son of a university lecturer, I can tell you it is.
  61. # [18:53] <Marcos_> My dad is also a university prof. :) Well, my department we were all slackers... more interested in doing real research then wasting time with deadshit students :)
  62. # [18:54] <gsnedders> Yeah, my dad keeps getting in trouble trying to do research, which he is meant to be paid to do a quarter of the time :)
  63. # [18:54] <gsnedders> (Primarily because they expect him to do a crazy amount of admin too)
  64. # [18:55] <Marcos_> yeah, that's another problem at unis. They got rid of all the admin staff
  65. # [18:55] <Marcos_> I'm glad I left academia. I hate that place.
  66. # [18:55] <gsnedders> One fun thing is his contract spells out that it expires at the end of the university year after he turns 65, and also defines what university year is.
  67. # [18:55] <gsnedders> What the university year is nowadays is no longer what is written in the contract
  68. # [18:56] <Marcos_> hehe, so what is it?
  69. # [18:56] <gsnedders> And he has no intention of staying after his contract says so
  70. # [18:56] <gsnedders> So he'll be leaving after the second week of term!
  71. # [18:56] <Marcos_> nice
  72. # [18:56] <gsnedders> (of the first semester)
  73. # [18:57] <gsnedders> Of course, he doesn't need to tell anyone he's leaving then. I mean, they all know: it's been in his contract for the past 30-odd years!
  74. # [18:57] <Marcos_> I don't think my old man will ever retire... he has taken up an environmentalist cause after 20 years of producing patents for the car manufacturing industry
  75. # [18:57] <gsnedders> (But, undoubtedly, they will be surprised at him leaving after second week, but that's the university's own fault)
  76. # [18:58] <Marcos_> hehe
  77. # [18:58] <gsnedders> He's retiring… so he can do research, such is the sad reality of universities nowadays
  78. # [18:58] <Marcos_> What area does he work in?
  79. # [18:58] <gsnedders> French
  80. # [18:59] <gsnedders> Esp. medieval French
  81. # [18:59] <Marcos_> he is a linguist ?
  82. # [18:59] <gsnedders> Indeed
  83. # [18:59] <Marcos_> ah... nice. shepazu is a linguist too :)
  84. # [19:00] <Marcos_> Interesting that the son of a linguist didn't dabble into the semweb :)
  85. # [19:00] <Marcos_> or maybe it makes sense
  86. # [19:00] <Marcos_> :)
  87. # [19:00] <gsnedders> I'd say I avoid linguistics but that isn't strictly true
  88. # [19:00] <Marcos_> shit, I got a conference paper to finish. There is no avoiding it, you work with markup languages, programming languages, etc
  89. # [19:01] <gsnedders> :P
  90. # [19:01] <Marcos_> Linguistics is a beautiful thing. You should read some Chomsky :)
  91. # [19:02] <Marcos_> Oh! and gsnedders, I got a bone to pick with you about your atheist extremist comments on FB
  92. # [19:03] <Marcos_> Before you judge us too harshly, you should read God is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher Hitichins
  93. # [19:03] <Marcos_> (better read than Lolita, though just as many pedophiles!)
  94. # [19:04] <Marcos_> hmm... the above might sound weird without context.
  95. # [19:06] * Marcos_ goes to work on paper for Africon 2009 about widgets
  96. # [19:08] <gsnedders> :P
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  102. # [23:25] <shepazu> Marcos_: I'm not a linguist... I studied linguistics. there's a difference. (but then, that's what a linguist would say ^_^)
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  104. # [23:26] <shepazu> but yeah, xbar syntax and categorical exemplars are really fascinating
  105. # [23:26] <shepazu> berjon's mom is a linguist, btw
  106. # [23:26] <shepazu> brb
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