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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 14 00:00:00 2009
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  22. # [09:40] * Set by darobin on Wed May 13 15:30:12
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  26. # [11:42] <darobin> should <content/> really be localisable?
  27. # [11:42] <darobin> with xml:lang I mean
  28. # [11:47] <darobin> Marcos?
  29. # [11:47] <darobin> it doesn't seem logical that <icon/> can only be localised via folders but <content/> has both methods
  30. # [11:48] <darobin> imho xml:lang L10N should be for inlined values, and folder L10N for external values
  31. # [11:48] <darobin> but we shouldn't mix
  32. # [11:59] <darobin> Marcos: there is no Step 5
  33. # [12:04] <Marcos> darobin: was having lunch
  34. # [12:04] <Marcos> darobin: there is a step 5
  35. # [12:04] <Marcos> re: icons... hmmm
  36. # [12:04] <Marcos> right
  37. # [12:05] <Marcos> re content, yes, it should be
  38. # [12:05] <Marcos> I guess it does not _have_ to be
  39. # [12:06] <Marcos> <content src="foobar"/> ---> /locales/en/foobar ,/locales/fr/foobar, etc.
  40. # [12:07] <Marcos> darobin: so what you are saying is make content behave like icon?
  41. # [12:07] * Marcos hopes darobin grabbed the latest draft of the the spec
  42. # [12:11] <darobin> yeah I did
  43. # [12:12] <darobin> well, I ran cvs up but it didn't update anything — I think I had the last from last night
  44. # [12:12] <darobin> so, yeah, I think content should be like icon
  45. # [12:13] <darobin> ah, hadn't reloaded, now I see step 5 :)
  46. # [12:13] <darobin> but it's not green, so won't review
  47. # [12:13] <darobin> Marcos: when you turn sections green, don't hesitate to tell me and I'll do a reread pass
  48. # [12:14] <Marcos> darobin: you consider access done, right?
  49. # [12:14] <darobin> well, assuming it doesn't get dropped, yes
  50. # [12:14] <Marcos> darobin: I was editing until 10:30pm last night
  51. # [12:14] <darobin> and it needs reviewing
  52. # [12:14] <Marcos> I am going to review it now
  53. # [12:15] <darobin> I was working on stuff until past midnight, so I got the update :)
  54. # [12:15] <Marcos> ah, ok cool
  55. # [12:15] <Marcos> I'm just finishing up some minor editorial stuff. Will checkin in 2 mins
  56. # [12:15] <Marcos> re, I finished the element-based localization section last night
  57. # [12:16] <darobin> so do we keep xml:lang L10N on <content>?
  58. # [12:17] <darobin> removing it makes it coherent with icon, simplifies implementations, and doesn't remove functionality
  59. # [12:18] <Marcos> right
  60. # [12:18] <Marcos> I'll do that
  61. # [12:18] <darobin> ok, I leave it to you
  62. # [12:18] <darobin> did you update before making new changes? :)
  63. # [12:18] <Marcos> darobin: I need you to move the processing rules for <acces>
  64. # [12:18] <Marcos> Ok, I commited
  65. # [12:18] <Marcos> and merged
  66. # [12:18] <Marcos> They need to go into the Processing Rules section
  67. # [12:19] <darobin> yeah
  68. # [12:19] <darobin> Step 7?
  69. # [12:19] <Marcos> no, I moved them
  70. # [12:19] <darobin> under access
  71. # [12:19] <Marcos> no, there is section above Step1 now
  72. # [12:20] <Marcos> All the processing rules need to be checked
  73. # [12:20] <darobin> so I create a Rule for processing access elements?
  74. # [12:20] <Marcos> no, give it a nice name\
  75. # [12:21] * darobin bitch slaps Marcos
  76. # [12:21] <Marcos> hehe
  77. # [12:21] <Marcos> Seriously, the processing rules for <access> are for the URI attribute... call the rule after what the processing steps do
  78. # [12:21] <Marcos> what is the result of the processing rules?
  79. # [12:22] <darobin> they're for more than the uri attribute, they use the other attributes too
  80. # [12:22] <darobin> an access request
  81. # [12:22] <darobin> Rule for Converting an access Element into an Access Request sounds horrible
  82. # [12:22] <Marcos> ah right, ok, so then they might actually go into Step 7. I have not had a chance to read it
  83. # [12:23] <darobin> the problem is: in the absence of a security model, it's hard to say what they do
  84. # [12:23] <Marcos> right, that's what I thought
  85. # [12:23] <darobin> they're talking to a black box that's in another room without any light
  86. # [12:23] <darobin> with an elephant sitting on it
  87. # [12:23] <darobin> and the elephant just farted
  88. # [12:23] <darobin> anyway
  89. # [12:23] <darobin> I need lunch
  90. # [12:23] <Marcos> :)
  91. # [12:24] <Marcos> go, when you come back I'll have the spec finished :P
  92. # [12:24] <darobin> after that I'm going to see my unborn baby's last picture before it's a born baby
  93. # [12:24] <darobin> haha
  94. # [12:24] <Marcos> cool
  95. # [12:24] <Marcos> put a picture up
  96. # [12:24] <darobin> I hope to make it to the call, if not I support changing the access thing if it doesn't delay us too much
  97. # [12:24] <darobin> and I disagree with whatever you say
  98. # [12:24] <Marcos> right!
  99. # [12:24] <darobin> I haven't move the access processing, I'll let you decide whether it pre-1 or in-7
  100. # [12:24] * darobin waves
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