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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jun 16 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #webapps
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  24. # [12:05] <arve> arun around?
  25. # [12:14] <MikeSmith> arve: arun is hardly ever around on IRC
  26. # [12:15] <MikeSmith> arve: if you want to real-time talk with him, maybe e-mail him first and get his contact info
  27. # [12:15] <MikeSmith> maybe he prefers some other chat mechanism (skype or whatever)
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  29. # [12:22] <arve> MikeSmith: nevermind, it's not a real hurry
  30. # [12:22] <arve> but the Unite thing is the reason for us wanting a traditional file I/O spec
  31. # [12:23] <MikeSmith> aha
  32. # [12:24] <arve> (and apologies if I've been unrelenting on certain security issues -- I just don't want the web security model to infest the server side)
  33. # [12:29] <MikeSmith> arve: I don't think anybody with an open mind would expect you to apologize for that. and you don't otherwise owe any apologies to those who've been trotting out the narrow-minded "it's not the Web" rhetoric
  34. # [12:30] <darobin> but.... it's not the web!!!1
  35. # [12:30] <MikeSmith> heh
  36. # [12:31] <darobin> I don't think apologies are needed, the security issues are a cause of concern whether unite is there or not
  37. # [12:32] <MikeSmith> if the "it's not the Web" thing were phrased instead as, "it's not the browser security model", then the right response is, Yeah, well, no shit, Sherlock.
  38. # [12:32] <darobin> besides, since when do we apologise around here?
  39. # [12:32] <MikeSmith> saying "it's not the Web" is a good way to offer an invitation to a fistfight
  40. # [12:32] <darobin> well that's the point isn't it?
  41. # [12:33] <MikeSmith> darobin: are you calling me a sissy?
  42. # [12:33] <darobin> that being said, I still think that we ought to stick to the browser security model as much as possible — if things become too different we lose the advantage of known technology
  43. # [12:33] <darobin> MikeSmith: do I need to call you that? I thought it was rather obvious
  44. # [12:34] <MikeSmith> heh
  45. # [12:34] <MikeSmith> is it my purse?
  46. # [12:34] <MikeSmith> because it's not a purse
  47. # [12:34] <darobin> more like the haircut
  48. # [12:34] <MikeSmith> it's a "men's bag"
  49. # [12:34] <darobin> it's a manpouch!
  50. # [12:34] <darobin> I have one too
  51. # [12:36] <MikeSmith> I saw this dude today that instead of a man bag he was carrying this sort of miniature aluminum attache
  52. # [12:36] <MikeSmith> which actually made him look even more like a little miss prissy
  53. # [12:37] <MikeSmith> because it's like, dude, if you're going to carry an attache, carry a real one
  54. # [12:37] <arve> MikeSmith: my point is that I've been unrelenting, but unwilling to explain why
  55. # [12:38] <MikeSmith> arve: that's OK, nobody understands you when you explain stuff anyway
  56. # [12:38] <arve> :D
  57. # [12:38] <MikeSmith> and being unrelenting is the only way to survive around here
  58. # [12:39] <arve> darobin: re serverjs: I'm not really all that sure serverjs is the right thing
  59. # [12:39] <MikeSmith> because the other bastards will eat you alive if you ever un-unrelent
  60. # [12:39] <arve> at least not after having looked at a partial implementation like jack.js
  61. # [12:40] <MikeSmith> arve: anyway, congrats on Unite -- seriously nice piece of work. I'm looking forward to seeing what kinds of things folks end up doing with it.
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  64. # [12:45] <darobin> arve: I don't know, I thought I should make a feature request before trying it
  65. # [12:45] <darobin> I was just thinking that it's a potentially nice set of APIs to produce web services
  66. # [12:45] <darobin> nice work, I agree
  67. # [12:45] <darobin> (I'm running it now)
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  97. # [17:02] <anne> grr
  98. # [17:03] <anne> CORS redirects + preflight result cache; how does that work?
  99. # [17:03] <anne> o_O
  100. # [17:10] <anne> ok, it does not crash and burn on further inspection, but it's not optimal
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  106. # [17:27] <anne> i think you chat :)
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  136. # [21:48] * ArtB changes topic to 'WebApps WG; this channel is logged at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
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