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  1. # Session Start: Thu Jun 18 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #webapps
  3. # [00:00] <MSjacob> ojan_: is when the DOM is modified a part of the event spec?
  4. # [00:00] <MSjacob> shepazu: that could be a part of this spec
  5. # [00:00] <MSjacob> shepazu: anne would you think that it's appropriate for us to talk about that in DOM3 events?
  6. # [00:00] <MSjacob> annevk: I don't have a problem with that
  7. # [00:01] <MSjacob> shepazu: I think, if there's not a more appropriate space, we should put it in this space
  8. # [00:01] <MSjacob> shepazu: certainly relevant as a part of this discussion
  9. # [00:01] <MSjacob> shepazu: what these diagrams are missing is "mutation event happens here"
  10. # [00:02] <annevk> anne: Hixie mentioned defining specifically what happens when a key or some such is pressed and what the exact steps user agents have to run follows from that
  11. # [00:02] <annevk> (that's the context for the above)
  12. # [00:03] <MSjacob> Travis: should we add info to these diagrams about canceling default actions
  13. # [00:04] <MSjacob> shepazu: I dont see IE coming out with a new implementation in at least 2 yrs
  14. # [00:04] <MSjacob> shepazu: if we had this spec out in the next 6mo, people could be using these now as a reference.....useful appendices
  15. # [00:07] <MSjacob> ojan_: maybe differences in IME behavior in IE7 and IE8
  16. # [00:08] * annevk is going to bed; g'night!
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  18. # [00:11] <Travis> shepazu: We need to add a few things into these diagrams...
  19. # [00:11] <Travis> smaug: At least mutation events
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  21. # [00:12] <Travis> shepazu: At any point (ignoring events) ask the window object what the active keys are in the key down position.
  22. # [00:12] <Travis> ... you lost focus, then came back, good to know what keys are still pressed.
  23. # [00:13] <Travis> ojan_: Would reduce the complexity of javascript state machines for tracking key states
  24. # [00:13] <Travis> Travis: May be better in the (new?) spec with the mutation events?
  25. # [00:15] <Travis> Action: shepazu to draft up proposal for alternate syntax for replacing mutation events AND proposal for polling key state off window.
  26. # [00:15] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  27. # [00:15] <trackbot> Created ACTION-367 - Draft up proposal for alternate syntax for replacing mutation events AND proposal for polling key state off window. [on Doug Schepers - due 2009-06-24].
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