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  49. # [13:17] <arve> does anyone know if there are multiple vendors that have committed to WebSimpleDB?
  50. # [13:23] <arve> (not interest, committment)
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  78. # [20:02] <smaug> shepazu: ping
  79. # [20:13] <Travis> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Main_Page
  80. # [20:17] <shepazu> smaug_, Travis, you on the phone?
  81. # [20:17] <smaug> shepazu: yes
  82. # [20:17] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  83. # [20:17] * trackbot is starting a teleconference
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  85. # [20:17] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/11/18-webapps-irc
  86. # [20:17] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  87. # [20:17] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  88. # [20:17] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  89. # [20:17] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM already started
  90. # [20:17] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  91. # [20:17] <trackbot> Date: 18 November 2009
  92. # [20:17] * shepazu zakim, call shepazu
  93. # [20:17] * Zakim ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  94. # [20:18] <Zakim> +Shepazu
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  97. # [20:26] <Travis> Travis: Talked to some folks about element-level resize (layout engineers) and based on layout complexity and potential spec vagueness (plus other browsers don't support this), I'd like to not spec this behavior as part of DOM L3 Events.
  98. # [20:27] <Travis> Travis: Suggested change to spec for resize: proximal event target = Window (only)
  99. # [20:28] <Travis> Travis: Wanting to ensure Wiki access to create strawman proposal for Faster Mutation Events (discussed with Jonas at TPAC 2009).
  100. # [20:28] <Travis> Travis: verified that I do have editing access :)
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  102. # [20:38] <Travis> Travis: Got feedback from Microsoft's Office Web Companions: they wanted to have a keyboard language hint for internationalization features (spell/grammer).
  103. # [20:42] <Travis> ... Makes more sense for compositionend events (which tend to be langauge specific).
  104. # [20:44] <Travis> shepazu: Side conversation on shortcomings of not having physical key layout information.
  105. # [20:45] <Travis> ... (re-)discovered keyValues for copy/paste/cut, which solves some common use cases.
  106. # [20:58] <Travis> shepazu: 2 key down sequence: CTRL keyValue + C [key], results in a KeyDown{keyValue:"Control"}, KeyDown{keyValue:"Copy"}
  107. # [21:01] <Travis> Travis: "Labled keys" on my keyboard (Control Key combos): SelectAll, Find, Cut, Copy, Paste, Bold, Underline, Italic
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  109. # [21:03] <Travis> ... Non-Function keys (share keyspace as F1-F12): Help, Undo, Redo, New, Open, Close, Reply, Fwd, Send, Spell, Save, Print
  110. # [21:13] <Travis> (Travis/Olli to think about this)
  111. # [21:13] <Travis> Last topic: DOMActivate...
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  113. # [21:15] <Travis> Scenario-- user tabs to a link and press enter/space. Event sequence is {KeyboardEvent -> MouseEvent (click) -> Event (DOMActivate).
  114. # [21:16] <Travis> ... So this is legacy behavior.
  115. # [21:16] <Travis> ... We can't change this.
  116. # [21:17] <Travis> ... It seems like DOMActivate and click have roughly the same meaning.
  117. # [21:18] <Travis> ... I'll be radical: Let's consider deprecating (like the mutation events) DOMActivate. In its place, make 'click' the new DOMActivate!
  118. # [21:19] <Travis> shepazu: We need to run this by the accessibility community to make sure we're not missing anything.
  119. # [21:20] <Travis> ... Intuition tells me that deprecating DOMActivate will simplify web application development and actually make it simpler to make accessible web applications.
  120. # [21:22] <smaug> http://www.w3.org/TR/progress-events/
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  122. # [21:27] <smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp#6145
  123. # [21:28] <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
  124. # [22:13] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  125. # [22:13] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  126. # [22:13] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
  127. # [22:13] <Zakim> Attendees were [Microsoft], [IPcaller], Shepazu
  128. # [22:13] <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
  129. # [22:13] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  130. # [22:13] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  131. # [22:13] <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
  132. # [22:13] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  133. # [22:13] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/18-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
  134. # [22:13] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  135. # [22:13] <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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