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  25. # [11:06] <Lachy> shepazu, do you have any idea why the directors call for selectors api ended up being done without me?
  26. # [11:07] <shepazu> Lachy: yes, because we finally got hold of chaals
  27. # [11:07] <Lachy> I never heard a thing about when it was supposed to be, and now I see the mails on member-webapps saying that it's already been done.
  28. # [11:08] <shepazu> Lachy: sorry if I miscommunicated... normally, the editor is not involved at all, but we were not hearing back from chaals, and we were trying to get it done before the end of the year, so plh suggested we see if you could stand in for chaals
  29. # [11:09] <shepazu> I guess I wasn't clear in our earlier chat that I would email you if it turned out we needed you
  30. # [11:09] <Lachy> really? I thought the editor was always supposed to be in on those calls
  31. # [11:09] <shepazu> no, not at all
  32. # [11:10] <Lachy> well, that sucks. Cause if I was, I would have been able to object to the idea to include 1.0 in the spec's title at the time
  33. # [11:10] <shepazu> until just a couple years ago, not even the chairs were involved, it was just the Director, the Domain Lead, and the Team Contact
  34. # [11:10] <shepazu> Lachy: why?
  35. # [11:11] <Lachy> because it was left out intentionally to avoid any association with versioning
  36. # [11:12] <shepazu> like I said on email, "level 1" is also fine, I'm sure
  37. # [11:12] <Lachy> and the only reason v2 includes "Level 2" in the title is as a way to distinguish the two specs
  38. # [11:13] <Lachy> although, fwiw, it would be better if, when v2 was ready for rec, it would just be called "Selectors API" and simply replace v1, if the W3C process actually allowed for that, but I don't think it does
  39. # [11:13] <shepazu> srsly, Lachy, this is a non-issue
  40. # [11:14] <shepazu> relax, the spec is the same
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  70. # [17:24] * Topic is 'WebApps WG; this channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
  71. # [17:24] * Set by ArtB on Tue Dec 01 12:46:39
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  73. # [17:44] <darobin> hey
  74. # [17:44] <darobin> any objections if DAP also uses this as its public logged channel?
  75. # [17:46] <darobin> hearing none... :)
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  77. # [17:46] <annevk> sounds good to me
  78. # [17:47] <annevk> there's a private channel?
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  80. # [17:47] <darobin> we have #dap, but that has the WG stuff, like #wam
  81. # [17:47] <AnssiK> hi guys
  82. # [17:47] <darobin> it's not so private since the minutes are public anyway, but it's sort of the WG thing
  83. # [17:47] <annevk> kk
  84. # [17:48] * darobin changes topic to 'WebApps and DAP WGs; this channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
  85. # [17:48] <darobin> if no one screams over the next couple days I'll announce this officially
  86. # [17:52] <AnssiK> based on the krijnhoetmer.nl stats this chan should be able to handle both the WGs volume-wise
  87. # [17:54] <Marcos> darobin, I object!!! Keep your dirty laundry out of our beautiful channel!
  88. # [17:54] <annevk> yeah, not a lot of traffic here
  89. # [17:55] <AnssiK> Marcos: :P
  90. # [17:55] <Marcos> Anne and I like discussing gardening here, and we don't like you and your riff-raff loitering around!
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  92. # [17:56] <darobin> Marcos objecting is the only confirmation I needed that being here is a good idea
  93. # [17:56] <Marcos> heh
  94. # [17:57] * ArtB sighs ... "There Goes the Neighborhood!" :)
  95. # [17:58] <darobin> pay no attention to ArtB, we can easily bribe him with t-shirts
  96. # [18:01] <AnssiK> talking of t-shirts, I got a nice Nitobi t-shirt at JSConf.eu from the PhoneGap guys -- Art, are you interested?)
  97. # [18:02] <karl> "Oh my gawd, oh my gawd! it is recorded? on TV? cough cough… Hi Mum… Oooooh that's so f***ing cool." :p
  98. # [18:03] <Marcos> :D
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  101. # [18:45] <ArtB> annevk - where can I find the latest Editor's Draft of CSSOM?
  102. # [18:55] <annevk> dev.w3.org/csswg/cssom/
  103. # [18:56] <ArtB> annevk, thanks!
  104. # [18:56] <ArtB> has that doc had a FPWD yet, Annevk?
  105. # [18:56] <annevk> nope
  106. # [18:57] <ArtB> what's best guestimate on when the FPWD will show up in /TR/?
  107. # [18:57] <annevk> i don't know, two years ago i thought end of 2007
  108. # [18:58] <annevk> a little over two years ago, that is
  109. # [19:29] <darobin> heh
  110. # [19:29] <darobin> what's stopping the FPWD?
  111. # [19:29] <annevk> nothing really
  112. # [19:30] <annevk> it's just not really ready
  113. # [19:30] <annevk> and people seem to be able to find dev.w3.org too
  114. # [19:30] <darobin> yeah, but FPWD can bring it to further attention
  115. # [19:30] <annevk> FPWD would prolly also get me tons of questions as to when it will get to LC
  116. # [19:30] <darobin> and perhaps get people to help
  117. # [19:30] <darobin> just say "when it's fucking ready"
  118. # [19:30] <annevk> I can say that now too, right? :)
  119. # [19:31] <darobin> yes you can, I was just asking what was keeping it :)
  120. # [19:32] <annevk> I guess I want some more of the basics covered
  121. # [19:32] <annevk> e.g. getComputedStyle
  122. # [19:35] <darobin> I wonder if maybe it could be cut up into smaller pieces
  123. # [19:35] <darobin> get the most useful stuff out earlier
  124. # [19:36] <annevk> i split out CSSOM View already
  125. # [19:36] <annevk> not sure if I'm happy with it
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  127. # [19:37] <darobin> we don't really care if you're happy, we just want specs :-p
  128. # [19:37] <annevk> there happens to be a correlation between the two :)
  129. # [19:38] <darobin> hehehehe
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