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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jan 27 00:00:00 2010
  2. # Session Ident: #webapps
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  28. # [20:01] <shepazu> trackbot, start yer engines!
  29. # [20:01] <trackbot> Sorry, shepazu, I don't understand 'trackbot, start yer engines!'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
  30. # [20:01] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  31. # [20:01] * trackbot is starting a teleconference
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  33. # [20:01] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-irc
  34. # [20:01] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  35. # [20:01] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  37. # [20:01] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  38. # [20:01] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start now
  39. # [20:01] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  40. # [20:01] <trackbot> Date: 27 January 2010
  41. # [20:01] * shepazu zakim, call shepazu
  42. # [20:01] * Zakim ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  43. # [20:01] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has now started
  44. # [20:01] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  45. # [20:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  47. # [20:03] <smaug> oops
  48. # [20:03] <smaug> just a second..
  49. # [20:05] <Zakim> +??P7
  50. # [20:05] <smaug> Zakim, ??P7 is me
  51. # [20:05] <Zakim> +smaug; got it
  52. # [20:06] <smaug> Zakim, smaug is Olli_Pettay
  53. # [20:06] <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
  54. # [20:07] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org//2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-flow-activation
  55. # [20:10] <Travis> scribe: Travis
  56. # [20:10] <Travis> scribeNick: Travis
  57. # [20:10] <Travis> Topic: Updated Draft
  58. # [20:11] <Travis> shepazu: clarified the section on activation behavior.
  59. # [20:11] <Travis> ... wrote a new section on "trusted events"
  60. # [20:11] <Travis> ... also added some prose about syncronous vs. asynchronous events
  61. # [20:15] <Travis> ... is the Trusted event section accurate?
  62. # [20:16] <Travis> You're missing dispatchEvent -- it'll always create un-trusted events
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  65. # [20:32] <Travis> Topic: Internationalization
  66. # [20:32] <Travis> shepazu: Need to examine whether the convertKeyValue API is needed.
  67. # [20:33] <Travis> .... I will be meeting with internationalization folks to follow up on the scenarios.
  68. # [20:33] <Travis> ... Also, want to figure out what the appropriate terminology is for the "character" returned by the 'key' API.
  69. # [20:35] <Travis> Topic: select element context info issue
  70. # [20:35] <Travis> Travis: We have an issue about how to get the context from a select event.
  71. # [20:36] <Travis> shepazu: Don't think this is a blocking issue.
  72. # [20:36] <Travis> Action: shepazu Ask SVG and HTML WGs what their recommended approach is for getting the selected text (related to select event)
  73. # [20:36] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  74. # [20:36] * RRSAgent records action 1
  75. # [20:36] <trackbot> Created ACTION-481 - Ask SVG and HTML WGs what their recommended approach is for getting the selected text (related to select event) [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-02-03].
  76. # [20:41] <Travis> Action: Travis to draft flow diagram for interaction between focus(), blur() APIs and focus/blur events (including focusin/focusout)
  77. # [20:41] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  78. # [20:41] * RRSAgent records action 2
  79. # [20:41] <trackbot> Created ACTION-482 - Draft flow diagram for interaction between focus(), blur() APIs and focus/blur events (including focusin/focusout) [on Travis Leithead - due 2010-02-03].
  80. # [20:44] <Travis> Topic: wheel event and default actions
  81. # [20:52] <Travis> Resolution: Remove MouseWheel interface, and replace with a description of legacy events (DOMPixelScroll, mousewheel, etc.) in the wheel event's section
  82. # [20:53] <Travis> Travis: I concur
  83. # [20:53] <Travis> smaug: Yes, I agree too.
  84. # [20:53] <Travis> Topic: initEvents
  85. # [20:54] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org//2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-Events-DocumentEvent-createEvent
  86. # [20:59] <Travis> smaug: I have a couple of issues with this.
  87. # [20:59] <Travis> ... first the createEvent can now take event type names.
  88. # [21:03] <Travis> shepazu: Reason to change this was the proliferation of init*Events on every interface.
  89. # [21:10] <Travis> Reason I see to change this is for the use case of wanting a simple way to initialize only _some_ of the properties on a given event and leave the other properties as their defaults.
  90. # [21:13] <smaug> http://www.w3.org/TR/cssom-view/#extensions-to-the-mouseevent-interface
  91. # [21:16] <Travis> When authors init events, there are just some properties that can't be initialized (because they're not in the init's param list)
  92. # [21:17] <Travis> I'd like you to add wording about what the default values are (generally) for an un-inited event.
  93. # [21:17] <Travis> Also, please revert back to the old init* APIs--I just don't think its time to take on that problem yet.
  94. # [21:19] <Travis> (In the future, I could see some kind of initParam("eventProperty", "eventPropertyValue")
  95. # [21:19] <Travis> )
  96. # [21:19] <Travis> I'd like to better understand the patterns that web developers are using here.
  97. # [21:22] <Travis> Topic: Spec Next Steps
  98. # [21:22] <Travis> shepazu: Assuming we get to CR, we're going to need a test suite and two interoperable implementations
  99. # [21:23] <Travis> ... I'd love to see a script library available that allows these features to be used right away.
  100. # [21:24] <Travis> ... I'll be looking for help with building tests
  101. # [21:24] <Travis> ... In the next two weeks lets try to clean-up all remaining spec issues.
  102. # [21:26] <shepazu> SENSE
  103. # [21:26] <shepazu> Signalling Events and Notifications by Selector Expressions
  104. # [21:26] <shepazu> Simple Eventless Notifications by Selector Expressions
  105. # [21:27] <Travis> Action: shepazu to Email the list regarding reverting event initializers (to be tackled next version) and call for use cases.
  106. # [21:27] * RRSAgent records action 3
  107. # [21:27] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  108. # [21:27] <trackbot> Created ACTION-483 - Email the list regarding reverting event initializers (to be tackled next version) and call for use cases. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-02-03].
  109. # [21:28] <Travis> shepazu: I think I could have most of the issues resovlved by next week. I will proceed with that goal.
  110. # [21:30] <Travis> ... Let me know if there's anything outstanding.
  111. # [21:32] <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
  112. # [21:32] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  113. # [21:32] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  114. # [21:32] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
  115. # [21:32] <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay
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  117. # [21:33] <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
  118. # [21:33] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  119. # [21:33] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  120. # [21:33] <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
  121. # [21:33] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  122. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
  123. # [21:33] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  124. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-actions.rdf :
  125. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> ACTION: shepazu Ask SVG and HTML WGs what their recommended approach is for getting the selected text (related to select event) [1]
  126. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-irc#T19-35-28
  127. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> ACTION: Travis to draft flow diagram for interaction between focus(), blur() APIs and focus/blur events (including focusin/focusout) [2]
  128. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-irc#T19-40-10
  129. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> ACTION: shepazu to Email the list regarding reverting event initializers (to be tackled next version) and call for use cases. [3]
  130. # [21:33] <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-irc#T20-25-51
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