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  88. # [15:55] <darobin> ArtB: I could only find one comment, documented and replied, cf http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-access-20091208/
  89. # [15:56] <darobin> there are other emails that discuss WARP but they aren't comments, they're about local network stuff
  90. # [15:56] <darobin> tell me if I missed something
  91. # [15:56] <darobin> Marcos: you got that infrastructure set up? it's been minutes already
  92. # [15:57] <ArtB> Robin, I recorded two comments for WARP LC#2
  93. # [15:57] <ArtB> 1. http://www.w3.org/mid/b21a10670912210706w1d04c972j1c40236c0a864ca0@mail.gmail.com
  94. # [15:57] <ArtB> 2. http://www.w3.org/mid/1260460310.3355.2561.camel@localhost
  95. # [15:57] <Marcos> yep, done
  96. # [15:57] <Marcos> :P
  97. # [15:58] <Marcos> darobin: reference Overview_LC2.html?
  98. # [16:02] <darobin> that's the published spec — the living one is Overview.html
  99. # [16:02] <Marcos> ok, will link to that
  100. # [16:02] <darobin> ArtB: oh, a comment from Marcos. I have a filter for those
  101. # [16:04] <Marcos> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-access/test-suite/
  102. # [16:04] <Marcos> heh
  103. # [16:05] <Marcos> darobin: I need to add the ta-x ids to the Overview file
  104. # [16:05] <Marcos> is that ok?
  105. # [16:05] <darobin> sure
  106. # [16:05] <darobin> you're editing the source right, not the target?
  107. # [16:06] <darobin> not _LC2
  108. # [16:08] <Marcos> right
  109. # [16:08] <Marcos> Overview.html
  110. # [16:11] <darobin> goody
  111. # [16:12] <Marcos> argh... you use class "rfc2119"
  112. # [16:13] <darobin> well, so?
  113. # [16:13] <Marcos> I use "ct"
  114. # [16:13] <darobin> that's because you're a douche
  115. # [16:13] <Marcos> makes sense
  116. # [16:13] <darobin> you're using jQuery right?
  117. # [16:13] <Marcos> yeah yeah... I'll fix it
  118. # [16:13] <darobin> just $(".ct, .rfc2119")
  119. # [16:14] * Marcos wanted to not look at any JS :)
  120. # [16:14] <anne2> ct is toally better imo
  121. # [16:14] <Marcos> darobin, yeah! you suck!
  122. # [16:14] <anne2> for one it's version agnostic
  123. # [16:14] <anne2> for two it's shorter
  124. # [16:14] <Marcos> Oh! smack!
  125. # [16:15] <anne2> I suppose you could go for bcp14 but I'm not sure why you would
  126. # [16:17] <Marcos> anne2, don't give him any ideas
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  129. # [16:39] <darobin> well, with rfc2119 you know WTF it's talking about
  130. # [16:39] <darobin> for all I know ct is Chris Thompson
  131. # [16:39] <darobin> and who cares about length? only losers would be typing that by hand
  132. # [16:40] <darobin> as for versioning? fuck versioning
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  138. # [17:25] <darobin> Marcos: I've implemented all of your requests in WARP (modulo some small bits that I arranged differently), if you could indicate whether or not you're happy you'd be a star
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  140. # [17:45] <Marcos> bah, darobin, I was editing the spec
  141. # [17:45] <Marcos> too
  142. # [17:45] <Marcos> np, I just added the ids
  143. # [17:45] * Marcos does it again
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  145. # [17:52] <darobin> bah, normally it shouldn't clash
  146. # [17:52] <darobin> it's an easy disambiguation I would think Marcos, CVS ought to get it right
  147. # [17:52] <Marcos> ahahhahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahahahahAHAHHAHAh
  148. # [17:52] <Marcos> ...
  149. # [17:52] <Marcos> HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
  150. # [17:53] <Marcos> ...cvs,.... right... hehe
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  152. # [17:53] <Marcos> hahahahahhah
  153. # [17:53] <Marcos> darobin: you real funny sometimes
  154. # [17:53] <darobin> yeah, it does happen
  155. # [17:54] <Marcos> you know what I do when I notice a conflict: rm -r *.* and the then "cvs update"
  156. # [17:54] <darobin> the one time we had a really big problem supposedly because of CVS was in fact because someone in this group uses Dreamweaver, which is too stupid to realise that a file has been updated and overwrote everything like the shitty piece of software that it is
  157. # [17:54] * darobin points at *.* and laughs
  158. # [17:54] <Marcos> heh
  159. # [17:55] * Marcos points at the word "darobin" and laughs
  160. # [17:55] <darobin> "Look mama, the funny man is using DOS wildcards!"
  161. # [17:55] <Marcos> heh
  162. # [17:55] <Marcos> How do you do it then?
  163. # [17:55] <darobin> you're not laughing loud enough: http://www.ecampus.com/bk_detail17.asp?isbn=9780595298327
  164. # [17:56] <darobin> (there used to be a website for that book, unfortunately it is now offline)
  165. # [17:56] <darobin> you mean "rm -r *" ?
  166. # [17:56] <Marcos> tha would delete the .fies
  167. # [17:56] <Marcos> files
  168. # [17:57] <Marcos> and the folders too
  169. # [17:57] <Marcos> which is not really what I want
  170. # [17:57] <Marcos> so, technically, I don't actually say "-r", it was there for rhetorical effect
  171. # [17:58] <darobin> well if you don't want to delete the directories, then yeah, the -r is sort of useles
  172. # [17:58] <darobin> "delete that file and then fucking recurse into its grave and delete it again"
  173. # [17:58] <Marcos> basically :)
  174. # [17:58] <Marcos> -r : reverse over it with a truck
  175. # [17:59] <Marcos> ok, time for me to do the monkey work
  176. # [17:59] <Marcos> that is, adding the id="ta-x"
  177. # [17:59] <Marcos> ..."Marcos, you have the most important editorial role of all"
  178. # [18:00] * Marcos hears darobin say..."No Marcos, it's not that I don't want to do it. It's just too hard for me... and you, you who is so kind, and you come up with such good id's for elements"
  179. # [18:06] <darobin> yeah, please make them long and very similar so that they're as hard to remember as possible!
  180. # [18:06] <darobin> I mean there are 10, so we couldn't possibly name them 0-9 :)
  181. # [18:07] <Marcos> darobin: you say "Maybe after reading RFC 1034 it'll be clearer?" you mean I should read it?
  182. # [18:17] <darobin> no :)
  183. # [18:17] <darobin> but it defines these things, so now I refer to it
  184. # [18:21] <Marcos> darobin: I should probably read it :)
  185. # [18:21] <Marcos> I'm going to trust all the changes make sense
  186. # [18:21] <darobin> cool!
  187. # [18:21] <Marcos> so I've approved the comments
  188. # [18:22] <Marcos> (like I'm so powerful, makes me feel like a big man)
  189. # [18:22] <Marcos> lets get this puppy to CR
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  191. # [18:26] <Marcos> darobin: this is confusing:
  192. # [18:26] <Marcos> A user agent MAY grant access to network resources listed in the access-request list; in this case the user agent MUST grant access based on the Rules for Granting Access to a Network Resources.
  193. # [18:26] <Marcos> I would say...
  194. # [18:27] <darobin> yeah that's not a MAY, it's a SHOULD
  195. # [18:27] <Marcos> "...in this case the use agent would grant..." (i.e., get rid of the must)
  196. # [18:27] <darobin> ah, yeah
  197. # [18:27] <Marcos> You want me to change?
  198. # [18:27] <darobin> what it says is that if it does grant access, then it MUST do so according to those rules (not others)
  199. # [18:27] <darobin> but that's immaterial really
  200. # [18:27] <Marcos> exactly
  201. # [18:28] <Marcos> so lets just say would
  202. # [18:28] <darobin> sure, but make sure you're up to date because my copy says "SHOULD" where you're quoting a MAY!
  203. # [18:28] <Marcos> I don't like "shoulds" :(
  204. # [18:28] <Marcos> They are annoying
  205. # [18:29] <darobin> better than MAY
  206. # [18:29] <darobin> the purpose of this spec is that a UA ought to honour the requests
  207. # [18:29] <Marcos> why can it be a sneaky MUST
  208. # [18:29] <darobin> except if it has good reason not to
  209. # [18:29] <darobin> e.g. it's a phishing site
  210. # [18:29] <Marcos> I.e., must do so except for security reasons
  211. # [18:29] <darobin> make it that if you want
  212. # [18:29] <darobin> wfm
  213. # [18:30] <darobin> so long as it goes to CR...
  214. # [18:30] * Marcos translates "wfm" to some kind of profanity about my mother
  215. # [18:30] <darobin> I meant works for me, but yeah, that too
  216. # [18:31] <darobin> I'm leaving now anyway :)
  217. # [18:31] <darobin> ArtB: the DoC is pretty much done, just waiting on Dom to okay the change I made that accepts his proposal
  218. # [18:31] <Marcos> awesome
  219. # [18:31] <Marcos> I'll add the id's and take off too
  220. # [18:33] <darobin> cool
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  226. # [19:33] <ArtB> yippee: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ietf-w3c/2010Mar/0004.html
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