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  59. # [19:53] <smaug> shepazu: well, ok, any time is ok to me too
  60. # [19:54] <smaug> shepazu: even 21:00 UTC
  61. # [19:54] <smaug> but if Travis shows up earlier, then great
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  63. # [20:01] <Travis> howdy folks!
  64. # [20:01] <smaug> Hi
  65. # [20:01] <smaug> give me few me minutes
  66. # [20:01] <Travis> Cool. I'll call in.
  67. # [20:06] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  68. # [20:06] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  70. # [20:06] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-irc
  71. # [20:06] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  72. # [20:06] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  74. # [20:06] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  75. # [20:06] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM already started
  76. # [20:06] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  77. # [20:06] <trackbot> Date: 31 March 2010
  78. # [20:07] <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu
  79. # [20:07] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  80. # [20:07] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  81. # [20:09] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  82. # [20:09] <smaug> Zakim:, [IPcaller] is me
  83. # [20:09] <smaug> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
  84. # [20:09] <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
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  86. # [20:15] <Travis> topic: beforescroll, magnify ideas
  87. # [20:16] <Travis> Very interesting ideas.
  88. # [20:16] <Travis> wheel event provides some of these use cases (for panning anyway).
  89. # [20:17] <Travis> smaug: Chatted with Joao and recommended that these ideas be addressed in a future events spec.
  90. # [20:17] <Travis> shepazu: We're pretty much feature-complete at this point.
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  92. # [20:19] <Travis> topic: DOMActivate
  93. # [20:20] <Travis> shepazu: Spoke with PF WG and addressed the topic of deprecating DOMActivate.
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  95. # [20:21] <Travis> ... Their resolution was that they had no objections so long as activation behvior is retained (we have clarified that) and make it more clear that "click" is device independent.
  96. # [20:21] <Travis> ... I will add some specific text to the spec to address these point immediately.
  97. # [20:22] <Travis> ... From XForms WG, they are still concerned about deprecating DOMActivate.
  98. # [20:25] <Travis> shepazu: All of our "optional" features are also "deprecated" at the moment.
  99. # [20:26] <Travis> ... One approach to addressing the concerns of XForms is to keep DOMActivate as optional, but remove the "deprecated" status.
  100. # [20:29] <Travis> ... I'm not thrilled about splitting the concept of "optional" and "deprecated".
  101. # [20:33] <Travis> ... Given that a majority of other WG are on board (including accessibility), we believe that any objections at this point should be taken to the list, and addressed at last call.
  102. # [20:37] <Travis> topic: textInput and input modes
  103. # [20:41] <Travis> In some scenarios (editing w/execCommands and contenteditable), we may not be able to discern script from end-user input.
  104. # [20:41] <Travis> Action: shepazu to add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input.
  105. # [20:41] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  106. # [20:41] * RRSAgent records action 1
  107. # [20:41] <trackbot> Created ACTION-512 - Add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-04-07].
  108. # [20:45] <Travis> topic: composition start/end and cancelable
  109. # [20:46] <Travis> smaug: Got some feedback regarding the ability to cancel IMEs in GTK in Unix-based OS
  110. # [20:46] <Travis> ... didn't seem to be able to cancle the IME on these platforms.
  111. # [20:56] <Travis> ... need to get further clarification.
  112. # [20:57] <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
  113. # [20:57] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  114. # [20:57] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  115. # [20:57] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
  116. # [20:57] <Zakim> Attendees were [Microsoft], Shepazu, Olli_Pettay
  117. # [20:57] <Travis> Travis: I also had some feedback that I'll send to the list.
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  119. # [20:58] <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
  120. # [20:58] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  121. # [20:58] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  122. # [20:58] <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
  123. # [20:58] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  124. # [20:58] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
  125. # [20:58] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  126. # [20:58] <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-actions.rdf :
  127. # [20:58] <RRSAgent> ACTION: shepazu to add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input. [1]
  128. # [20:59] <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-irc#T18-39-36
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  135. # [23:00] <eiras> hi people. Wasn't the conference call now ?
  136. # [23:00] * eiras is now known as joao
  137. # [23:05] <gsnedders> joao: there was a DOM one three hours ago
  138. # [23:06] <joao> oh....
  139. # [23:06] <joao> 21 UTC was it ?
  140. # [23:08] * Zakim excuses himself; his presence no longer seems to be needed
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  142. # [23:18] * gsnedders has no idea, and is just totally confused about times
  143. # [23:19] <gsnedders> Having my computer still set to Europe/Stockholm isn't helping me
  144. # [23:19] <gsnedders> 20:00 Europe/Stockholm, which would imply 18:00 UTC
  145. # [23:20] <joao> yes
  146. # [23:21] <joao> utc 21 is 23h cet in summer time
  147. # [23:21] <joao> or 22h here :)
  148. # [23:21] * gsnedders just lurks here, doesn't actually know anything
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  150. # [23:35] <Marcos> joao: seems you missed it... by looking at the logs
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  152. # [23:38] <joao> "We will be holding the next DOM3 Events telcon on Wednesday, 31 March 2009, at 21:00 UTC. [1] Please consult adjust for your local time."
  153. # [23:39] <gsnedders> The link below has the wrong date
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