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  61. # [20:02] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
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  64. # [20:02] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-irc
  65. # [20:02] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  66. # [20:02] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  68. # [20:02] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  69. # [20:02] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start now
  70. # [20:02] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  71. # [20:02] <trackbot> Date: 21 April 2010
  72. # [20:02] <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu
  73. # [20:02] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  74. # [20:02] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has now started
  75. # [20:02] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  76. # [20:02] <smaug> just a minute
  77. # [20:03] * shepazu isn't in a hurry
  78. # [20:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  79. # [20:05] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  80. # [20:05] <smaug> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
  81. # [20:05] <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
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  83. # [20:06] <Travis> scribe: Travis
  84. # [20:06] <Travis> scribeNick: Travis
  85. # [20:06] <Travis> Topic: Issues review
  86. # [20:07] <shepazu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010AprJun/0031.html
  87. # [20:07] <Travis> Current editor's draft dated 4/20/2010: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html
  88. # [20:07] <Travis> shepazu: Many issues resolved in this draft.
  89. # [20:08] <Travis> ... after review, we will be ready to publish (Working Draft)
  90. # [20:09] <Travis> ... would like to go to LCWD in first two weeks of May.
  91. # [20:09] <Travis> smaug: I see setCapture still. Looks to have issues...
  92. # [20:10] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-event-type-setCapture
  93. # [20:10] <Travis> Topic: set/releaseCapture.
  94. # [20:12] <Travis> smaug: Recommend not taking these for D3E -- many unresolved issues...
  95. # [20:13] <Travis> shepazu: [discusses possible use cases]
  96. # [20:16] <Travis> I am also in favor of postponing this to a future spec.
  97. # [20:16] <Travis> ... many of the use-cases can be handled via the capture phase of the event model. Granted, capturing events over an iframe is not possible, however, we have had known security exploits as a result of this feature in IE.
  98. # [20:19] <Travis> Topic: magnify reference misleading?
  99. # [20:19] <Travis> We all resolve to remove it because it might lead folks to think that it's spec'd somewhere...
  100. # [20:20] <Travis> shepazu: OK. removed.
  101. # [20:21] <Travis> Topic: trusted/untrusted events?
  102. # [20:21] <Travis> shepazu: I think we've already resolved this...
  103. # [20:22] <Travis> Topic: FocusEvent relatedTarget
  104. # [20:22] <Travis> Speced as the eventTarget recieveing focus...
  105. # [20:23] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-focus
  106. # [20:26] <Travis> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
  107. # [20:26] <Travis> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
  108. # [20:26] <Travis> <head>
  109. # [20:26] <Travis> <title>Untitled Page</title>
  110. # [20:26] <Travis> </head>
  111. # [20:26] <Travis> <body>
  112. # [20:26] <Travis> <form>
  113. # [20:26] <Travis> <input id="myCheck" name="checky" type="checkbox" />
  114. # [20:26] <Travis> </form>
  115. # [20:26] <Travis> <script>
  116. # [20:26] <Travis> var check = document.getElementById("myCheck");
  117. # [20:26] <Travis> check.addEventListener('click', function(e)
  118. # [20:26] <Travis> {
  119. # [20:26] <Travis> alert('preventing the default action');
  120. # [20:26] <Travis> e.preventDefault();
  121. # [20:27] <Travis> }, false);
  122. # [20:27] <Travis> </script>
  123. # [20:27] <Travis> </body>
  124. # [20:27] <Travis> </html>
  125. # [20:27] <Travis> (That's a sample code that "undoes" the check action after the fact, via preventDefault.)
  126. # [20:27] <Travis> (This is related to the issue in default actions.)
  127. # [20:27] <Travis> shepazu: Great. I'll clean this up and keep the wording as-is.
  128. # [20:30] <Travis> Back to relatedTarget/focus event type...
  129. # [20:30] * tlr is now known as tlr-bbl
  130. # [20:30] <Travis> IE9 is currently reporting the same object for relatedTarget as target. We can adjust this if necessary...
  131. # [20:31] <Travis> smaug: Yes, I don't see why we need to have them both point to the same place...
  132. # [20:31] <Travis> shepazu: OK. I'm changing relatedTarget to be 'null' in cases where the relatedTarget and target are the same in the FocusEvent interface.
  133. # [20:36] <Travis> Topic: Focus event types interaction (Issue 102)
  134. # [20:39] <Travis> Action: shepazu to coordinate with WAI with issues of focus.
  135. # [20:39] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  136. # [20:39] * RRSAgent records action 1
  137. # [20:39] <trackbot> Created ACTION-529 - Coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-04-28].
  138. # [20:40] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-wheel
  139. # [20:48] <Travis> (back to focus/blur topic... I sent the mail re: this topic on Feb 8, 2010, but it may have been rejected from www-dom. I just resent it to www-archive.
  140. # [20:49] <Travis> Topic: wheel event, button value
  141. # [20:50] <Travis> Firefox: it appears to be 0 (which is the default when no value is assigned)
  142. # [20:51] <Travis> Opera: seems kinda random 0's, 1's, and 2's reported...
  143. # [20:51] <Travis> shepazu: Should there be an associated button?
  144. # [20:52] <Travis> I like just having button and 'buttons' be zero.
  145. # [20:52] <Travis> smaug: me too.
  146. # [20:52] <Travis> shepazu: OK. Done.
  147. # [21:02] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#keyset-DeadKeys
  148. # [21:02] <Travis> Topic: dead key values during composition
  149. # [21:04] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#key-values
  150. # [21:04] <Travis> shepazu: Simple resolves...
  151. # [21:04] <Travis> Topic: JavaScript escaped characters
  152. # [21:06] <Travis> All the issues listed seem more like a Note than an issue.
  153. # [21:06] <Travis> shepazu: Agree.
  154. # [21:08] <Travis> Might even get its own section, a la "Considerations for key values in other language bindings"?
  155. # [21:08] <Travis> shepazu: Do we need to worry about C/Java interactions?
  156. # [21:08] <Travis> ... the implementation will just need to handle it.
  157. # [21:10] <Travis> ... I'm going to convert these to notes.
  158. # [21:10] <Travis> shepazu: I think that's the last major issue!
  159. # [21:11] <Travis> smaug: When the draft is updated, and before publication, please send out a mail.
  160. # [21:27] <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
  161. # [21:27] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  162. # [21:27] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  163. # [21:27] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
  164. # [21:27] <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay
  165. # [21:28] <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
  166. # [21:28] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  167. # [21:28] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  168. # [21:28] <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
  169. # [21:28] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  170. # [21:28] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
  171. # [21:28] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  172. # [21:28] <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-actions.rdf :
  173. # [21:28] <RRSAgent> ACTION: shepazu to coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. [1]
  174. # [21:29] <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-irc#T18-37-50
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