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  14. # [01:26] <dandaman> herro everybody
  15. # [01:27] <dandaman> i'm using http://www.jdotb.com/blog/improving-usability-of-an-iphone-website-with-simple-javascript/ to emulate a swipe
  16. # [01:28] <dandaman> the problem I need help with is setting the x and y threshold because the sensitivity for every mobile phone is different(at least from my experience), for example a quick swipe on an iphone 3g will yield me like 40 pixels in the x direction and the same swipe on the tmobile mytouch will be like 230 px in the x direction
  17. # [01:28] <dandaman> can anyone help me figure out a way to scale it depending on the sensitivity of the screen, or is that even possible?
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  63. # [19:04] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  64. # [19:04] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  66. # [19:04] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-webapps-irc
  67. # [19:05] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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  69. # [19:05] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  70. # [19:05] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  71. # [19:05] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start in 57 minutes
  72. # [19:05] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  73. # [19:05] <trackbot> Date: 18 August 2010
  74. # [19:05] <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu
  75. # [19:05] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  76. # [19:06] <shepazu> Zakim, drop shepazu
  77. # [19:06] <Zakim> sorry, shepazu, I don't know what conference this is
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  79. # [19:07] <shepazu> Zakim, room for 3?
  80. # [19:07] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; conference Team_(webapps)17:05Z scheduled with code 26633 (CONF3) for 60 minutes until 1805Z
  81. # [19:07] <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu
  82. # [19:07] <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  83. # [19:07] <Zakim> Team_(webapps)17:05Z has now started
  84. # [19:07] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  85. # [19:07] <shepazu> smaug_, code is 26633
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  87. # [19:08] <smaug_> shepazu: now?
  88. # [19:08] <smaug_> I thought at 21 pm
  89. # [19:08] <smaug_> (EET)
  90. # [19:09] <smaug_> in an hour
  91. # [19:09] <smaug_> the usual time
  92. # [19:09] <shepazu> oh, ok
  93. # [19:09] <shepazu> nm
  94. # [19:09] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  95. # [19:09] <Zakim> Team_(webapps)17:05Z has ended
  96. # [19:09] <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu
  97. # [19:09] <shepazu> smaug_: I updated the spec
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  102. # [20:04] <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
  103. # [20:04] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  104. # [20:04] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  105. # [20:04] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  106. # [20:04] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
  107. # [20:04] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
  108. # [20:04] <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
  109. # [20:04] <trackbot> Date: 18 August 2010
  110. # [20:04] * shepazu Zakim, call shepazu
  111. # [20:04] * Zakim ok, shepazu; the call is being made
  112. # [20:04] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has now started
  113. # [20:04] <Zakim> +Shepazu
  114. # [20:04] <shepazu> Zakim, who's here?
  115. # [20:04] <Zakim> On the phone I see Shepazu
  116. # [20:04] <Zakim> On IRC I see smaug_, Lachy, sicking, arve, Zakim, RRSAgent, MikeSmithX, aroben, ArtB, anne5, karl, Peter, dandaman, Martijnc, Lawouach, gavin, shepazu, krijnh, gsnedders, jgraham,
  117. # [20:05] <Zakim> ... Hixie, hober, timeless, ilkka, trackbot
  118. # [20:05] <Zakim> +??P2
  119. # [20:05] <smaug_> Zakim, ??P2 is Olli_Pettay
  120. # [20:05] <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
  121. # [20:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  123. # [20:07] <smaug_> "W3C Editor's Draft 04 August 2010"
  124. # [20:09] <smaug_> scribe: Olli
  125. # [20:11] <smaug_> shepazu: changing keyCode from DOMString to long
  126. # [20:21] <smaug_> shepazu: is it useful to have these printed control characters?
  127. # [20:22] <smaug_> Travis: I like them
  128. # [20:24] <smaug_> Travis: let's take both ; .char and .key when possible
  129. # [20:26] <smaug_> smaug_: people will ask about .charCode
  130. # [20:27] <smaug_> shepazu: .charCode doesn't give any new information, .keyCode does
  131. # [20:30] <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/2
  132. # [20:33] <smaug_> shepazu: closing ISSUE-39, not going to change the order of mutation events
  133. # [20:33] <smaug_> shepazu: ISSUE-42 is done
  134. # [20:35] <smaug_> shepazu: (about ISSUE-43) I did do a lot about this, though perhaps not enough for Ian.
  135. # [20:35] <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html?rev=1.135#event-type-click
  136. # [20:35] <smaug_> shepazu: lots of it is the order of the events, like mouse event order
  137. # [20:37] <smaug_> shepazu: marking ISSUE-43 closed
  138. # [20:39] <smaug_> shepazu: ISSUE-44; some of this is done in HTML5, some in D3E (defaultView)
  139. # [20:43] <smaug_> shepazu: I'm going to leave ISSUE-86 open
  140. # [20:43] <smaug_> shepazu: ...and add a section about device event order and event loops etc
  141. # [20:45] <smaug_> Travis: sounds similar to D3E 3.3
  142. # [20:46] <smaug_> shepazu: closing ISSUE-87
  143. # [20:46] <smaug_> it is clarified in the draft
  144. # [20:47] <smaug_> shepazu: closing ISSUE-92 . focusin is in the spec
  145. # [20:47] <smaug_> shepazu: ISSUE-102 is still open
  146. # [20:48] <smaug_> shepazu: closing ISSUE-106.
  147. # [20:50] <smaug_> shepazu: ISSUE-111, z was added for wheel, but not to mouse events
  148. # [20:51] <smaug_> shepazu: defer to future spec
  149. # [20:56] <smaug_> shepazu: leaving ISSUE-113 open. needs more discussion
  150. # [20:59] <smaug_> shepazu: ISSUE-118 looks like an edge use case to me
  151. # [20:59] <smaug_> Travis: systems aren't designed to mix trusted and untrusted in this manner
  152. # [20:59] <smaug_> smaug_: I agree
  153. # [21:00] <smaug_> shepazu: closing ISSUE-118
  154. # [21:01] <smaug_> shepazu: I'll go through the open actions
  155. # [21:02] <smaug_> shepazu: we're going to use html test framework
  156. # [21:09] <smaug_> smaug_: I'll send an email to the list about composition events and key events
  157. # [21:10] <smaug_> shepazu: I'll try to resolve the open actions
  158. # [21:11] <smaug_> shepazu: I'll add details about event attributes
  159. # [21:11] <smaug_> shepazu: last call period could be then 6 weeks
  160. # [21:13] <smaug_> shepazu: we don't need to have all the telcons during that period
  161. # [21:14] <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
  162. # [21:14] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  163. # [21:14] <Zakim> -Shepazu
  164. # [21:14] <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
  165. # [21:14] <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu, Olli_Pettay, [Microsoft]
  166. # [21:14] <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
  167. # [21:14] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  168. # [21:14] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  169. # [21:14] <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
  170. # [21:14] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  171. # [21:14] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
  172. # [21:14] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  173. # [21:14] <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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