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  57. # [13:49] <anne> Marcos, Web IDL defines the exception
  58. # [13:49] <anne> Marcos, for the question you are raising on the Geolocation API
  59. # [13:50] <anne> Marcos, unless I misunderstood something
  60. # [13:50] <Marcos> I looked at WebIDL, but could not find it
  61. # [13:50] <Marcos> WRONG_ARGUMENT_ERR is not defined by WebIDL
  62. # [13:51] <anne> well, that is our internal error :)
  63. # [13:51] <anne> why do you assume we are compliant with Web IDL? :)
  64. # [13:51] <Marcos> Anne, I also talked to Lasse and he said he based the implementation on the test suite. And that his original implementation did not throw any exception because the spec did not say to
  65. # [13:51] <Marcos> He only added the exception because we were failing the test, not because the spec says so
  66. # [13:51] <Marcos> I think that is bad
  67. # [13:52] <anne> well, he didn't read the IDL description correctly then
  68. # [13:53] <anne> implementors not reading things happens all the time
  69. # [13:53] <anne> that's why QA yells at them
  70. # [13:53] <anne> if you look at the IDL for this method
  71. # [13:53] <Marcos> Yeah, but in this case it's WAC's QA yelling at us... and that is embarrassing
  72. # [13:53] <anne> getCurrentPosition(in PositionCallback successCallback,
  73. # [13:53] <anne> in optional PositionErrorCallback errorCallback,
  74. # [13:53] <anne> in optional PositionOptions options)
  75. # [13:53] <anne> you see the first argument is not optional
  76. # [13:53] <anne> so you then look at Web IDL to see what happens if that argument is omitted
  77. # [13:54] <anne> i think it might be an open issue
  78. # [13:55] <Marcos> ok, I see what you mean. So the chain is borked till WebIDL gets fixed
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  80. # [13:57] <jgraham> It is an open issue
  81. # [13:57] <jgraham> But AFAIK you should throw TypeError per current WebIDL
  82. # [13:57] <jgraham> If you pass the wrong number of arguments
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  84. # [13:58] <anne> yeah, and it should probably stay that way
  85. # [14:00] <jgraham> Yeah, I think it makes sense. But it is not surprising if people fail to work it out from WebIDL. This part of the spec is seriously cryptic
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  87. # [14:01] <anne> Marcos, btw, our WRONG_ARGUMENT_ERR is fine until we implement WebIDL
  88. # [14:02] <anne> I guess we should get on that one of these days
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