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- # [19:14] <jrossi> shepazu: any D3E updates?
- # [19:14] <shepazu> jrossi: I have been working on it, but nothing published for today
- # [19:15] <shepazu> I was kinda expecting some more feedback from you on specific issues
- # [19:15] <jrossi> Yep. Just sent you a few items.
- # [19:15] <shepazu> but that's not holding me up, I can integrate your suggestion at any time
- # [19:15] <shepazu> ah, great, thanks
- # [19:15] <jrossi> It's not a lot. But a start.
- # [19:16] <shepazu> jrossi: ouch...
- # [19:16] <shepazu> I also have a mouse diagram :(
- # [19:17] <jrossi> haha, oh well. there was bound to be some overlap.
- # [19:17] <shepazu> lol
- # [19:17] <jrossi> besides, my graphics arts skills needed some refreshing lol
- # [19:17] <shepazu> well, mine isn't fantastic
- # [19:18] <jrossi> so are there any particular issues that you know will take a while, or you are looking for particular guidance on?
- # [19:18] <jrossi> I've just been working from the bottom up
- # [19:19] <shepazu> well, like I mentioned, the step-by-step examples are tedious and I could use help there
- # [19:23] <jrossi> I see an issue marked for needing an example for default actions which occur before the event dispatch.
- # [19:24] <jrossi> I'm not sure shich step-by-step examples you're referring to, I guess.
- # [19:36] <shepazu> jrossi: I'm having trouble finding those myself...
- # [19:36] <shepazu> you want to look at ISSUE-172?
- # [19:38] <jrossi> oh yeah, i did look at this
- # [19:39] <jrossi> we divided it into 2 issues: one about whether it's ok for implementations to give 0 if they can't determine timestamp (issue 171, I believe?), and another for whether timestamp should be generated when the event object is created (as currently spec'd) or when the event is dispatched
- # [19:39] <jrossi> wrt to the former, I really don't have a preference since IE provides timestamp. I'm not really sure what kind of implementation wouldn't be able to provide a timestamp....but sure....
- # [19:40] <jrossi> i would say leave that one as is (currently allowed to be 0)
- # [19:40] <jrossi> for the latter issue, I'd rather not change it from what the spec currently says
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- # [19:45] <jrossi> Looking at our telecon minutes, we decided to remove the allowance for timeStamp being 0, but keep timeStamp as ms since epoch (at the time the event was created)
- # [19:45] <jrossi> so Issue 172 is a non-issue: no change to be made
- # [19:46] <jrossi> For Issue 171, you should remove the sentence "When not available, the value must be 0." from the Event IDL
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- # [20:04] <shepazu> jrossi: sorry to be dense... what should the value be if it's not available?
- # [20:05] <jrossi> i think the point was to say that not providing a timeStamp would be considered non-conforming
- # [20:05] <shepazu> hmmm
- # [20:05] <jrossi> like i said, I don't particularly have a preference
- # [20:05] <shepazu> ok
- # [20:06] <jrossi> but our resolution was to remove that allowance for it to be 0
- # [20:06] <shepazu> ok
- # [20:06] <jrossi> did you ever figure out what the "step by step examples" were? or are there others that you'd like me to take a look at?
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- # [20:08] <shepazu> ok, done
- # [20:09] <shepazu> jrossi: don't worry about that... if you see anything that needs doing and interests you, maybe just ping me about it to se if I've already started on it?
- # [20:09] <jrossi> ok, sounds good....i take it you're on IRC most of the time :-)
- # [20:10] <jrossi> Thursdays are generally more available for me. So I may sit down and take a shot at some of these. Was the kind of stuff I had in that doc helpful, or was it mostly old news to you?
- # [20:11] <jrossi> I basically just wrapped up what is in the issue tracker + any resolutions from telecons + suggested text wherever necessary
- # [20:19] <shepazu> ok
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