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  32. # [08:48] <Sirisian> Hixie, are you awake?
  33. # [08:50] <Sirisian> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12102
  34. # [08:51] <Sirisian> That confuses me. I thought they'd be using the Typed Array specification for binary sockets. hmm maybe I'm misunderstanding what they're discussing
  35. # [08:52] <Sirisian> I guess I don't get what Blob is hmm
  36. # [08:59] <anne> see the File API specification
  37. # [09:00] <anne> I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense here...
  38. # [09:07] <Sirisian> yeah I saw that in the FileAPI. The Typed Array spec has it as a reference
  39. # [09:12] <Sirisian> Well binary data tends to be represented as a series of bytes. The typed array spec was design for that kind of stuff.
  40. # [09:14] <anne> "binary data" is kind of a broad concept
  41. # [09:14] <anne> e.g. for "binary data" from disk you really want Blob
  42. # [09:15] <anne> and for very large amounts of "binary data" you probably also want Blob so it can be backed by a disk
  43. # [09:20] <Sirisian> anne, so Blob and Typed Array are separate ideas? Is there a way to access a blob with a Typed Array?
  44. # [09:21] <Sirisian> I see what you mean now though about Blob. I didn't notice this. I guess I assumed that the FileAPI used Typed Arrays
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  49. # [11:23] <anne> Sirisian, not sure how flushed out everything is these days, but yeah, they'll interact and we need both
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  74. # [15:17] <anne> hey ArtB, do you think we can publish http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/from-origin/raw-file/tip/Overview.html -- it's a complementary document to CORS
  75. # [15:17] <anne> basically sort of defines an opposite mechanism
  76. # [15:17] <anne> instead of enabling access, it denies it
  77. # [15:19] <ArtB> Anne, given the text in Section 5, perhaps this should wait for the WebAppSec WG?
  78. # [15:19] <ArtB> Perhaps you could ask for comments on public-web-security
  79. # [15:20] <ArtB> and an update on the chartering of the WebAppSec WG
  80. # [15:20] <anne> the WebFonts WG would like to have something published is the impression I get
  81. # [15:20] <anne> we can always move it around later
  82. # [15:21] <anne> it seems within scope but our charter is expired for half a year now?
  83. # [15:22] <ArtB> WebApps charter runs thru June 2012
  84. # [15:22] <anne> top hit in Google is the old charter :/
  85. # [15:23] <ArtB> Anne, why don't you announce it on public-{webapps,web-security} and ask for feedback re WebApps publishing it
  86. # [15:24] <ArtB> and definitely include info/pointers re why WebFonts wants this published
  87. # [15:24] <ArtB> that is, note the dependency
  88. # [15:25] <anne> thanks ArtB
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  112. # [21:00] <Hixie> Sirisian: here now
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  114. # [21:03] <smaug_> Hixie: I wonder if you could comment on http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11887
  115. # [21:03] <Hixie> on it
  116. # [21:04] <smaug_> so far I haven't seen any use cases to valueAsNumber, I don't us to implement it without good use cases
  117. # [21:04] <smaug_> ...which can't be trivially handled using parseInt/parseFloat
  118. # [21:06] <Hixie> the use case is the same one as for parseInt(input.value, 10)
  119. # [21:06] <Hixie> commented
  120. # [21:07] <smaug_> Hixie: ok, I don't want to bloat web APIs
  121. # [21:07] <smaug_> so I'd say no need to implement it
  122. # [21:08] <Hixie> yeah it's not especially important
  123. # [21:14] <Hixie> ArtB: i'm always going to answer "yes" whenever you ask if anything is ready to go to LC, CR, REC, or whatnot. :-)
  124. # [21:18] <ArtB> Hixie: oh, no, not another W3C process discussion :-)
  125. # [21:19] <ArtB> We should probably avoid publishing an LC if you are about to check in important changes that would affect an implementation
  126. # [21:20] <ArtB> But I understand [at least I think I do :-)] your perspective on publishing
  127. # [21:20] <Hixie> i'm not aware of any pending important changes, but i have 1668 e-mails in my pending feedback folders dating from the past 4 months or so, so i can make no guarantees
  128. # [21:21] <ArtB> oh, dear
  129. # [21:21] <Hixie> i can however guarantee that i won't make any changes that harm implementations without having their ok
  130. # [21:21] * ArtB had something like 2,000 unread emails on the hybi list before he unsubscribed ...
  131. # [21:21] <Hixie> so whether it's in LC or REC or ED doesn't make any difference to me or the implementors as far as i can tell :-)
  132. # [21:21] <ArtB> Hixie - ok; good to hear!
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