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  72. # [15:52] <Ms2ger> ArtB1, http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20110621#l-706
  73. # [15:58] <ArtB1> Ms2ger, oh dear, missing backslash?
  74. # [15:58] <Ms2ger> No, silly place to put content
  75. # [15:59] <ArtB1> content should't go between <html> and </html>?
  76. # [15:59] <karl> <!doctype>
  77. # [15:59] <karl> <html>
  78. # [15:59] <karl> <!-- content goes here -->
  79. # [15:59] <karl> </html>
  80. # [15:59] <ArtB1> need a shortcut ;-)
  81. # [15:59] <karl> ooops forgotten
  82. # [16:00] <karl> html in doctype
  83. # [16:00] <karl> <!doctype html>
  84. # [16:00] <karl> heh
  85. # [16:00] <karl> btw congrats on people who made the ux, design of Nokia N9. Nice work.
  86. # [16:01] <Ms2ger> ArtB1, also, the doctype will work with Nokia Gecko browsers as well :)
  87. # [16:05] * smaug might buy still one more Nokia, N9.
  88. # [16:06] <ArtB1> Server-sent Events is back to Zarro Boogs http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=WebAppsWG&component=Server-Sent+Events+%28editor%3A+Ian+Hickson%29&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype
  89. # [16:06] * Ms2ger likes his Nokia
  90. # [16:06] <ArtB1> time for YA LC?
  91. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> A 1101, I think
  92. # [16:07] <smaug> Ms2ger: N900 is really nice
  93. # [16:09] <Ms2ger> ArtB1, support, I guess :)
  94. # [16:09] <smaug> anne: oh, now I remember. I should report some bugs in your eventsource tests
  95. # [16:09] <smaug> I need to go through them again...
  96. # [16:09] <Ms2ger> smaug, colour screen? Meh ;)
  97. # [16:10] <smaug> Ms2ger: N900? Yes, it has even colour screen!
  98. # [16:10] * Ms2ger likes his b&w
  99. # [16:10] <anne> smaug, hmm yeah, me too
  100. # [16:10] <smaug> Ms2ger: and I can send SMS :)
  101. # [16:11] <Ms2ger> That's about all mine does
  102. # [16:11] <Ms2ger> (And snake!)
  103. # [16:11] <ArtB1> anne, smaug - do you know of any eventsource spec bugs that haven't been reported?
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  105. # [16:12] <smaug> I don't recall any
  106. # [16:12] <smaug> the CORS stuff is still new
  107. # [16:13] <smaug> and the default mode for "Use Credentials" is IMO wrong
  108. # [16:13] <smaug> but Hixie disagrees
  109. # [16:13] <Ms2ger> FORMAL COMPLAINT?
  110. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> Oh, wait, this isn't the HTMLWG
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  131. # [19:58] <ArtB> PLH - yt?
  132. # [19:59] <plh> yep
  133. # [19:59] <ArtB> I have a question PLH re the registration process for the blob: URI scheme defined in the File API spec
  134. # [20:00] * ArtB looks for pointer ...
  135. # [20:00] <ArtB> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/#ABNFForBlob
  136. # [20:01] <ArtB> Arun asks in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/1180.html about the "correct" way to define this scheme
  137. # [20:01] <ArtB> currently it is in the spec
  138. # [20:01] <ArtB> That's what we did with the widget: URI scheme
  139. # [20:01] <ArtB> A question here is whether an IETF RFC is needed
  140. # [20:01] <ArtB> Presumably the answer is no
  141. # [20:01] <plh> is this blob uri scheme related to the Blob object?
  142. # [20:01] <ArtB> So I want to confirm that with you PLH
  143. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> Presumably yes, but can we ignore that? :)
  144. # [20:02] <plh> well
  145. # [20:02] <plh> I just read the following:
  146. # [20:02] <plh> "The Blob and, by extension, the File objects’ slice() method has been removed and replaced with a new, proposed syntax that makes it more consistent with Array.slice() and String.slice() methods in JavaScript."
  147. # [20:02] <plh> in http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/06/firefox5/
  148. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> Right
  149. # [20:02] <plh> thus my question...
  150. # [20:05] <plh> so, regarding the uri scheme, why can't we do the same way as the widget spec?
  151. # [20:05] <Ms2ger> Which is..?
  152. # [20:05] <ArtB> The widget URI scheme is in a separate spec
  153. # [20:05] <Ms2ger> WFM
  154. # [20:06] <ArtB> I don't recall if that was mandatory or if we did it because it made sense organizationally
  155. # [20:06] <plh> I'm not an expert in how to register those with the IETf to be honest
  156. # [20:06] <plh> I could certainly ask them
  157. # [20:06] <ArtB> who should I then talk to?
  158. # [20:06] <Ms2ger> Does that involve waiting for ten years?
  159. # [20:07] <plh> am I that flaky? :)
  160. # [20:07] <Ms2ger> The IETF sure is
  161. # [20:07] <plh> mnot would be the one to talk to
  162. # [20:08] <plh> I agree with Arun that the draft doesn't need to be blocked until this gets resolved btw
  163. # [20:09] <ArtB> ok; plh
  164. # [20:10] <plh> I can send an email to mnot cc you and Arun right away if you want
  165. # [20:10] <ArtB> and I'll followup to Arun's original email to uri list (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2011May/0000.html) re if defiing this scheme in the W3C spec is problematic
  166. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> And some archived mailing list? :)
  167. # [20:10] <plh> sure
  168. # [20:10] <ArtB> that would be fine plh but please cc uri@w3.org
  169. # [20:10] <plh> ok
  170. # [20:10] <ArtB> thanks!
  171. # [20:11] <ArtB> (I'll not send my followup then)
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  173. # [20:17] * plh dives into RFC 4395
  174. # [20:17] * Ms2ger throws a lifebuoy at plh
  175. # [20:21] * ArtB paraphrases 4395: make new scheme registration as complex/prohibitive as possible so no one will actually go thru the effort ;-)
  176. # [20:22] <plh> "The URI scheme registration template may be
  177. # [20:22] <plh> contained in an Internet Draft, alone or as part of some other
  178. # [20:22] <plh> protocol specification.
  179. # [20:22] <plh> "
  180. # [20:22] <plh> "The template may also be submitted in
  181. # [20:22] <plh> some other form (as part of another document or as a stand-alone
  182. # [20:22] <plh> document)"
  183. # [20:22] <plh> so it seems to me that Arun is fine as he is
  184. # [20:23] <plh> as long as he is following the template
  185. # [20:24] <ArtB> alrighty then
  186. # [20:24] <plh> ah, he is not following the template
  187. # [20:24] <plh> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4395#section-5.4
  188. # [20:25] <ArtB> I'll pass that on to Arun
  189. # [20:25] <plh> seems straightforward to me
  190. # [20:26] <plh> so, here is what I suggest:
  191. # [20:26] <plh> - Arun updates the draft to follow the template
  192. # [20:26] <plh> (or add a section with the template)
  193. # [20:27] <plh> - a copy of it is sent to uri-review@ietf.org , asking for review
  194. # [20:28] <plh> - once we're in CR, Arun sends email to iana@iana.org asking for provisional status
  195. # [20:28] <Ms2ger> - IANA does nothing
  196. # [20:29] <plh> - if IANA does nothing, ping plh and ask him to kick IANA
  197. # [20:29] <plh> (might need to kick plh as well in the process)
  198. # [20:29] <Ms2ger> If that helps, I'd like to borrow you for a few months :)
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  206. # [21:06] <plh> Art, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2011Jun/0003.html
  207. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Looks like a busy list
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  217. # [21:38] <ArtB> hi plh; sorry the delay - all of the above LGTM; thanks!
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