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  1. # Session Start: Thu Jun 23 00:00:00 2011
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  37. # [13:30] <ArtB> anne, I will cancel the CfC to publish a CR of Progress Events
  38. # [13:31] <anne> we can do another LC if you want?
  39. # [13:31] <anne> there was no feedback last time
  40. # [13:32] <ArtB> I'll respond to your "Testing Progress Events and CR" that a new LC is needed
  41. # [13:32] <anne> oh, and with respect to DOM Core, pretty much everything depends on DOM Core...
  42. # [13:33] <ArtB> anne, are planning any other changes to PE?
  43. # [13:34] <ArtB> s/are planning/are You planning/
  44. # [13:35] <anne> no, I guess it kind of depends whether the new approach to initializing events gets accepted
  45. # [13:35] <anne> minus potential typos and such I think it is ok as it is now
  46. # [13:36] <ArtB> I agree some review time makes sense
  47. # [13:37] <ArtB> I could start a 1-week pre-LC RfC on the changes to the specs
  48. # [13:37] <ArtB> or do an 2-week CfC for LC (normally we just do a 1-week CfC for LC)
  49. # [13:39] <ArtB> anne, I lean toward the former i.e. starting with a pre-LC RfC. WDYT?
  50. # [13:41] <anne> sounds good
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  53. # [14:06] <smaug> anne: you removed initProgressEvent
  54. # [14:07] <smaug> I assume it is implemented in ... all the browsers
  55. # [14:07] <smaug> or perhaps not in IE
  56. # [14:07] <smaug> is there a reason why you removed it
  57. # [14:09] <anne> because it's not needed
  58. # [14:10] <smaug> well, event.initEvent() isn't needed
  59. # [14:10] <smaug> perhaps you've removed that too
  60. # [14:10] <anne> I suspect that we cannot remove that and cannot remove initMouseEvent and such
  61. # [14:10] <anne> but initProgressEvent is still fairly new
  62. # [14:11] <smaug> progress events were implemented long ago
  63. # [14:11] <anne> mutation events too, but if you think we should keep it please email the list
  64. # [14:12] <smaug> at least there has been public discussion to remove mutation events
  65. # [14:13] <smaug> I don't recall a public discussion about removing initProgressEvent
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  67. # [14:16] <anne> isn't that the whole idea of a draft?
  68. # [14:17] <smaug> ?
  69. # [14:17] <smaug> ah, the public discussion
  70. # [14:17] <smaug> well, in this case your removing a feature which has been implemented
  71. # [14:17] <smaug> long ago
  72. # [14:21] <anne> fair enough; I guess I didn't really consider initProgressEvent() a feature :)
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  74. # [14:22] <anne> smaug, otoh, we've been doing the same with DOM Core
  75. # [14:23] <anne> and HTML, etc.
  76. # [14:23] <smaug> anne: yeah, and that is a bit problematic
  77. # [14:23] <smaug> I need to file some bugs about features which probably can't be removed
  78. # [14:23] <smaug> for example CDATASection
  79. # [14:24] <smaug> (you may want to discuss with glazou about the issues related to CDATASection)
  80. # [14:26] <anne> it's not that problematic I think
  81. # [14:26] <anne> not sure I want that :)
  82. # [14:27] <anne> but I read the bug report, seemed a bit non-conclusive still
  83. # [14:27] <anne> sicking still thinks it's worth it
  84. # [14:48] <ArtB> Marcos - did you get any feeback from the I18N guys re the 3 widget specs in LC? (I haven't seen any)
  85. # [14:48] <Marcos> nope
  86. # [14:49] <Marcos> they must like it? :)
  87. # [14:49] <ArtB> yeah, let's go with that
  88. # [14:49] <Marcos> Addison is using it, so I guess that means he really must like it
  89. # [14:50] <ArtB> do you have a link to his usage?
  90. # [14:50] <ArtB> and is that Amazon using it?
  91. # [14:52] <Marcos> No, I only have an email he sent me
  92. # [14:52] <Marcos> Not sure if he sent it to the public list
  93. # [14:52] <Marcos> might have
  94. # [14:52] <Marcos> It's Amazon's spin off company that does R&D on the Kindle
  95. # [14:52] <ArtB> ok
  96. # [14:53] <ArtB> btw, Marcos, Widget Interface will need to block on the group's decision re Web Storage
  97. # [14:53] <ArtB> as you know ...
  98. # [14:53] <Marcos> that I do… :)
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  100. # [15:22] <ArtB> speaking of widgets, I like Bruce Lawson's articile (http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2011/installable-web-apps-and-interoperability/)
  101. # [15:22] <ArtB> we should have titled the spec WAIF
  102. # [15:22] <ArtB> Web Application Installation Format
  103. # [15:22] <ArtB> waif "a homeless and helpless person, esp. a neglected or abandoned child"
  104. # [15:22] <ArtB> ;-)
  105. # [15:23] <Marcos> Bruce, what a troll :)
  106. # [15:23] <Marcos> heh, that would have been an appropriate name :)
  107. # [15:25] <ArtB> it's not too late Marcos
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