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  56. # [16:03] <ArtB1> anne, yt?
  57. # [16:06] <anne> yup
  58. # [16:11] <ArtB1> anne, re From-Origin spec ...
  59. # [16:12] <ArtB1> would you please clearly state in the SotD something like: the contents of the document does not necessary reflect consensus of the WG?
  60. # [16:12] <ArtB1> perhaps that will help address Brad Hill's comment
  61. # [16:13] <Ms2ger> Ins't that part of the usual boilerplate?
  62. # [16:13] <ArtB1> I will reply to him about this
  63. # [16:13] <ArtB1> ms2ger, I don't think it is very explict as it is written today
  64. # [16:13] * ArtB1 goes to Refresh ...
  65. # [16:14] <anne> that's standard WD SotD text...
  66. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> Mm, it notes ...does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership
  67. # [16:14] <anne> right
  68. # [16:14] <anne> it's pretty clear that WDs do not represent consensus of the WG
  69. # [16:14] <anne> we never added anything for CORS either
  70. # [16:16] <ArtB1> when you say it's "pretty clear" here, are you speaking about Audience or specific text?
  71. # [16:16] <ArtB1> It doesn't seem clear to me
  72. # [16:16] <ArtB1> from either perspective
  73. # [16:16] * Ms2ger looks at pubrules
  74. # [16:17] <anne> "Publication as a Working Draft does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership. This is a draft document and may be updated, replaced or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to cite this document as other than work in progress."
  75. # [16:18] <ArtB1> yes, that's all true
  76. # [16:18] <ArtB1> but it doesn't address the point I am making: the WG may not necessarily agree on the contents of the spec
  77. # [16:19] <ArtB1> I think all of us WebApp'ers understand this
  78. # [16:19] <ArtB1> but in this case, we have some people from IETF participating
  79. # [16:19] <Marcos> Maybe having an Issues section, like Hixie put into the Web Storage spec might do the trick?
  80. # [16:19] <ArtB1> I don't see any harm in making the contents point more specific
  81. # [16:20] <ArtB1> and it would address Brad's point
  82. # [16:20] <ArtB1> which is pretty close to objecting to the publication
  83. # [16:21] * ArtB1 is having a déjà vu momemnt about this conversation but can't remember the spec ...
  84. # [16:21] <anne> WG members < W3C membership
  85. # [16:22] <anne> it might be easier to just point that out than to make changes to the specification for no good reason, imo
  86. # [16:22] <anne> well maybe not, but I don't really like to play the silly compromise game
  87. # [16:22] <ArtB1> I think addressing other people's comments is "good reason"
  88. # [16:23] <anne> if the SotD in fact stated it represented the consensus of the WG then yes there would be something to address
  89. # [16:23] <anne> but it states the opposite
  90. # [16:24] <ArtB1> The SotD as written now says nothing about consensus on the _contents_
  91. # [16:24] <anne> you don't think "Publication as a Working Draft does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership." is about the contents?
  92. # [16:24] <anne> what is it about then?
  93. # [16:25] * anne is confused
  94. # [16:25] <ArtB1> I think it says "the WG agree to publish the document"
  95. # [16:25] <ArtB1> and is silent on its contents
  96. # [16:25] <anne> that is not how I read that at all
  97. # [16:26] <anne> but okay you win
  98. # [16:26] <anne> tell me the line and where to put it
  99. # [16:31] <ArtB1> How about "The contents of this document does not necessarily reflect the consensus of the Working Group."
  100. # [16:31] <ArtB1> It could be added a few places
  101. # [16:31] <ArtB1> Perhaps at the end of par #3?
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  103. # [16:40] <anne> sure
  104. # [16:40] <anne> will make that change in a couple of minutes
  105. # [16:40] <Ms2ger> s/does/do/?
  106. # [16:51] <anne> _ArtB, done with change suggested by Ms2ger: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/from-origin/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
  107. # [16:52] <anne> Honestly though I think this is way too much bureaucrazy for publishing a simple draft
  108. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> You don't have informative refs, I'd drop that section
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  110. # [16:57] <anne> someone from the TAG suggests renaming the title
  111. # [16:57] <anne> I'll change Restrictions to Policy
  112. # [16:58] <anne> unless someone here thinks that is wrong
  113. # [16:59] <anne> that's too broad I guess
  114. # [16:59] <anne> Exclusion it is
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  147. # [21:14] <jsoref> hi
  148. # [21:14] <jsoref> anne/ms2ger: do you want comments on that doc?
  149. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> Which?
  150. # [21:15] <jsoref> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/from-origin/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
  151. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> I assume Anne does
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