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  92. # [17:14] <Josh_Soref> hey MikeSmith
  93. # [17:14] * Josh_Soref is wondering about how hg repos in w3 come into existence
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  109. # [18:45] <dom> Josh_Soref, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-tools/2010AprJun/0011.html
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  111. # [19:11] <Josh_Soref> thanks
  112. # [19:12] <Josh_Soref> hrm, so, it should really just be "dap" instead of "contacts"?
  113. # [19:14] <Josh_Soref> oh, but there *is* a dap dvcs item
  114. # [19:14] * Josh_Soref pokes it
  115. # [19:16] <Josh_Soref> dom: so... you added a dvcs dap/contacts ? it only seems to have tests
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  117. # [19:16] <Josh_Soref> if i try to move the actual contacts spec into it, is there certain magic about which i need to know?
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  119. # [19:18] <Ms2ger> Webapps uses one repo per spec, fwiw
  120. # [19:19] <Josh_Soref> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/file/f0fd658ac9be is one repo per spec?
  121. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> That's tests
  122. # [19:21] <Josh_Soref> is it unreasonable to say "that's confusing" ? :)
  123. # [19:22] <ArtB> Josh: under http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ there is domcore, etc.
  124. # [19:22] <Ms2ger> A little :)
  125. # [19:22] <Josh_Soref> wow
  126. # [19:22] <ArtB> no, that is not unreasonable [I've said it a few times ;-)]
  127. # [19:22] <Josh_Soref> Ms2ger: try cloning FXTF
  128. # [19:22] <ArtB> and I think someone recently screwed it up
  129. # [19:22] <Josh_Soref> ArtB: would you object to me asking all the repos which are test only be renamed {foogroup}-tests ?
  130. # [19:22] <ArtB> so there is hard proof ;-)
  131. # [19:23] <ArtB> yes
  132. # [19:23] <Josh_Soref> you'd object? :(
  133. # [19:23] <ArtB> well, I don't object to you asking
  134. # [19:23] <ArtB> but I will object to the request
  135. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> I wouldn't
  136. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> I only object to d3e
  137. # [19:24] <ArtB> Webapps tried to document this process in http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Testing
  138. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> Josh_Soref, was http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/file/a27212ba7b6a/filters/master/xhtml1-transitional%2Bedit.dtd what you wanted me to look at? :)
  139. # [19:24] <Josh_Soref> Ms2ger: dunno
  140. # [19:25] <Josh_Soref> for some reason cloning that repo gave me a really long time estimate for the clone itself
  141. # [19:25] <Josh_Soref> whereas everything else i've cloned was fast
  142. # [19:25] <ArtB> I'm remiss here for not dropping a README file in http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/
  143. # [19:26] <ArtB> ACTION barstow add a README file to http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/ that explains that dir is for tests -> not specs
  144. # [19:26] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  145. # [19:26] <trackbot> Created ACTION-626 - Add a README file to http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/ that explains that dir is for tests -> not specs [on Arthur Barstow - due 2011-10-25].
  146. # [19:27] <Josh_Soref> +1 for that action
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  150. # [19:32] <Josh_Soref> dom: can i list you as the contact for the contacts repository?
  151. # [19:32] <Josh_Soref> or should i list myself?
  152. # [19:33] <ArtB> Josh_Soref - how's this:
  153. # [19:33] <ArtB> [[
  154. # [19:33] <ArtB> WebApps WG.
  155. # [19:33] <ArtB> NOTE: the http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/ directory is ONLY for tests as described
  156. # [19:33] <ArtB> in WebApps' Testing Process:
  157. # [19:33] <ArtB> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Testing
  158. # [19:33] <ArtB> NOTE: _specifications_ for this WG should use the http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ directory. For example:
  159. # [19:33] <ArtB> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore
  160. # [19:33] <ArtB> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/editing
  161. # [19:33] <ArtB> ]]
  162. # [19:33] <Josh_Soref> not bad, but
  163. # [19:33] <Josh_Soref> is there a wiki page in webapps that can list all of the repos?
  164. # [19:33] <Josh_Soref> because it'd be great to link to that :)
  165. # [19:33] <Josh_Soref> and it'd be great for that to exist..
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  167. # [19:34] <ArtB> You mean the mirror: http://w3c-test.org/webapps/ ?
  168. # [19:34] <ArtB> I can add that to the README
  169. # [19:35] <ArtB> josh_soref?
  170. # [19:35] <Josh_Soref> hrm
  171. # [19:35] <Josh_Soref> "tests/" is presumably not a spec :)
  172. # [19:36] <Josh_Soref> is api-design?
  173. # [19:36] <Josh_Soref> grr
  174. # [19:36] <ArtB> remember I said there was an error? that's api-design
  175. # [19:36] <Josh_Soref> you can hg rm files...
  176. # [19:36] <ArtB> action berjon move api-design out of WebApps' test repository
  177. # [19:36] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  178. # [19:36] <trackbot> Created ACTION-627 - Move api-design out of WebApps' test repository [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-10-25].
  179. # [19:37] <Josh_Soref> ArtB: but... seriously
  180. # [19:37] <Josh_Soref> can you assure me that no specs will exist before a directory in the tests/ repo?
  181. # [19:37] <Josh_Soref> that seems unlikely
  182. # [19:37] <Josh_Soref> ArtB / dom / .. : how do i edit my w3 contact info?
  183. # [19:38] <Josh_Soref> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/person?id={me} certainly doesn't
  184. # [19:38] <Josh_Soref> nor did http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/edit-group?group={somegroup}&uid={myuid}
  185. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> Your AC rep does, no?
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  187. # [19:40] <Josh_Soref> i'm pretty sure there's *some* way for me to edit my own info
  188. # [19:40] <Josh_Soref> i just don't recall what it is
  189. # [19:41] <Josh_Soref> oh, it's http://www.w3.org/Systems/db/userInfo
  190. # [19:41] <Josh_Soref> why didn't i think of that?!
  191. # [19:41] <Josh_Soref> ... "let me count the reasons"
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  200. # [20:07] <Josh_Soref> dom: grr
  201. # [20:07] <Josh_Soref> ArtB / Ms2ger pointed out that webapps uses <webapps> for tests only
  202. # [20:07] <Josh_Soref> it seems that <dap> is more or less doing the same today
  203. # [20:09] <ArtB> I think WebApps just followed a pattern created by HTML WG and WebPerf WG
  204. # [20:09] <ArtB> and then perhaps DAP followed ...
  205. # [20:09] <Ms2ger> Well, HTML uses svn+cvs
  206. # [20:09] <Josh_Soref> ArtB: well, that'd be nice
  207. # [20:10] <Josh_Soref> but dom just more or less tried to wontfix me following the pattern
  208. # [20:11] <ArtB> I thought the idea was to have some consistency among the WGs: http://w3c-test.org/
  209. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> [for specs]
  210. # [20:29] <Josh_Soref> ArtB: *shrug*, i cc'd you
  211. # [20:30] <Josh_Soref> personally, i think this is a case where i'd really like to have subrepos
  212. # [20:30] <Josh_Soref> foowg-tests; speca; specb;
  213. # [20:30] <Josh_Soref> foowg {a repo with only subrepos for: foowg-tests, speca, specb}
  214. # [20:31] <Josh_Soref> tests {a repo with only subrepos for *-tests}
  215. # [20:31] <Josh_Soref> that way if i want to clone all the tests, i can just clone "tests" and get all of them
  216. # [20:31] <Josh_Soref> and if i want to see everything a wg does, i could clone foowg and get all of its specs and tests
  217. # [20:31] <Josh_Soref> and if i only care about one spec, i could clone that one spec (as today)
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  220. # [20:40] <ArtB> I tend to agree with you Josh and historically, that's the way it was done with CVS
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  223. # [20:40] <ArtB> I think that broke some when specs moved around to different WGs
  224. # [20:40] <ArtB> or work on a spec is done by jointly by >= 2 WGs
  225. # [20:44] <Josh_Soref> having a spec as its own repo makes this stuff pretty easy
  226. # [20:45] <Josh_Soref> and letting a spec also be a subrepo of a wg allows multiple wg's to have that spec as a subrepo
  227. # [20:45] <Josh_Soref> no harm, it just magically works
  228. # [20:45] <Josh_Soref> (well, mostly)
  229. # [20:46] <Josh_Soref> Ms2ger: may i distract you from webapps long enough to consider a dap spec (that mozilla is implementing)?
  230. # [20:47] * Josh_Soref is trying to figure out why it makes sense for a client to be able to say "please get me 2 out of 20 subfields for a foo"
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  232. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> Josh_Soref, you make it sound like I have time to edit specs
  233. # [20:54] <Josh_Soref> s/webapps/whatever you are doing/
  234. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> Too much :)
  235. # [20:57] <Josh_Soref> amusingly the sample code here wasn't going to work
  236. # [20:57] <Josh_Soref> it was trying to alert(object) instead of alert(string)
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