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  64. # [21:06] <timeless> ArtB/et al, how many weeks notice do you have to give for a f2f?
  65. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> 5 minutes?
  66. # [21:07] <timeless> it isn't covered in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups :(
  67. # [21:07] <timeless> MikeSmith: ? :)
  68. # [21:08] <Yves> 8 weeks
  69. # [21:08] <timeless> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/activities.html mentions 8 weeks
  70. # [21:08] <timeless> Yves: thanks, do you happen to have a pointer?
  71. # [21:08] <Yves> unless there is agreement with all participants, in that case it can be shorter
  72. # [21:09] <Yves> let me try to find one :)
  73. # [21:09] <timeless> thanks
  74. # [21:09] <timeless> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#GeneralMeetings
  75. # [21:09] <timeless> seems to be the right one
  76. # [21:09] <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/process.html#GeneralMeetings
  77. # [21:10] <Yves> yep same (one html vs multi page versions)
  78. # [21:10] <Ms2ger> How is "all participants" defined?
  79. # [21:10] <Yves> "Shorter notice for a meeting is allowed provided that there are no objections from group participants."
  80. # [21:10] <timeless> Ms2ger: presumably all members of the WG are considered participants
  81. # [21:11] <Yves> so no objection and not "all agree"
  82. # [21:11] <timeless> which means that i'm not technically in good standing to complain
  83. # [21:11] <timeless> since i'm not a WG member
  84. # [21:11] <Ms2ger> So...
  85. # [21:11] <Ms2ger> If I announce a f2f meeting in 5 minutes, and nobody objects before then...
  86. # [21:11] <Ms2ger> I'm fine?
  87. # [21:12] <timeless> i presume i have 8 weeks to join your WG and object :)
  88. # [21:12] <Yves> the goal is not to push things to the extreme, just to give people enough time to get plane tickets at a decent rate and plan appropriately, and allow shorter version if it is convenient
  89. # [21:12] <timeless> i'm not sure i can get my lawyers to move that fast
  90. # [21:13] <timeless> actually, for webapps, i'm certain i can't :(
  91. # [21:13] <timeless> but oh well
  92. # [21:13] <Yves> you can always ask if it's feasible to move it
  93. # [21:13] <Yves> and give what would be the best option for you
  94. # [21:16] * timeless WTFs
  95. # [21:16] <timeless> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-intents/2013Jan/0009.html
  96. # [21:17] <timeless> did a CG really just steal a deliverable from two chartered WGs?
  97. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> Sounds like the thing the WHATWG would do
  98. # [21:20] <timeless> yeah, but that's ok
  99. # [21:20] <timeless> that's outside w3 process :)
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  101. # [21:25] * ArtB catches up
  102. # [21:25] <ArtB> timeless, did you get answers to all of your Q's?
  103. # [21:25] <timeless> yes, and i'm glad to have just read your email
  104. # [21:26] * ArtB wonders about the specific instance(s) that caused the question
  105. # [21:26] <timeless> the first question was
  106. # [21:27] <timeless> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sysapps/2013Jan/0095.html
  107. # [21:27] <timeless> they're days from running out of space in their 8 week window
  108. # [21:27] <timeless> my team is still fence sitting wrt joining that wg
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  110. # [21:28] <timeless> ironically, if it actually meets in Toronto, we could crawl there
  111. # [21:29] * timeless actually hasn't figured out the work mode for sysapps
  112. # [21:29] <ArtB> nice [my vote would be Madrid ;-)]
  113. # [21:29] <timeless> or who's really driving it or anything else
  114. # [21:29] <timeless> are you members?
  115. # [21:30] <timeless> since i've already been to Madrid and Barcelona, if i could join, do you think we could get someone to host in Toledo instead? :)
  116. # [21:35] <ArtB> Hi timeless, no I am not a member of SysApps
  117. # [21:37] <ArtB> I wonder if there is something in CG process docs that says a CG MUST not work on stuff that is in the scope of a Chartered WG. Yves?
  118. # [21:38] <timeless> i don't think there is
  119. # [21:39] <timeless> remember WebApps ceded some work on something to a CG
  120. # [21:39] * timeless can't remember which bits
  121. # [21:39] <timeless> there SHOULD be text requiring CGs to get a resolution of support before they actively encroach on WG territory
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