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  78. # [15:39] <ArtB> odinho - yt?
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  81. # [16:00] <odinho> ArtB: Yea! :D
  82. # [16:00] <ArtB> hey odino
  83. # [16:00] <ArtB> re Opera's SSE tests ...
  84. # [16:01] <ArtB> are they ready for the group to review?
  85. # [16:01] <ArtB> I couldn't tell from the https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/60 if you or someone else is still working on them odinho?
  86. # [16:02] <odinho> They do need a review. That is, to know the state of them.
  87. # [16:02] <odinho> Tina did that, didn't she?
  88. # [16:02] <ArtB> As I mentioned in https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/62#issuecomment-16171131 , it appears Tina considers Opera's SSE tests as sufficient to test CR
  89. # [16:02] <odinho> I can fix whatever errors there may be.
  90. # [16:03] <ArtB> so I think dropping MOSQUITO tests is ok (and I think dom agrees)
  91. # [16:03] <ArtB> I do think Tina reviewed them, yes
  92. # [16:03] <dom> indeed
  93. # [16:03] <ArtB> but I don't there has been a request for the WG to review them
  94. # [16:04] <ArtB> are you tests all ready for a WG-wide review?
  95. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> What's the WG-wide review for?
  96. # [16:05] <ArtB> For a CR implementation report, we want to make sure the group has an opp to review the tests
  97. # [16:06] <odinho> Yes :-) Since Tina has looked at them, that's good enough for me. I can follow up on any comments.
  98. # [16:06] <ArtB> so odinho, if I start a RfR today, what URL do I use?
  99. # [16:06] <ArtB> Tina told me she considers Opera's SSE tests sufficient to test the CR exit criteria. Do you agree odinho?
  100. # [16:07] <odinho> For running, that's a bit hmm. We haven't created a special branches/ folder yet. But for looking this is -> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/60/files
  101. # [16:07] <ArtB> alrighty, thanks!
  102. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> Well, the group has an opportunity to review all tests, they're on github ;)
  103. # [16:07] <odinho> ArtB: It would be very nice to have some better networking tests, -- that's really lacking, but we don't have that infrastructure yet.
  104. # [16:07] * Ms2ger wonders if we could send PRs to a mailing list for people who are interested
  105. # [16:08] <ArtB> odinho, yeah, being able to run the tests directly (e.g. during a review) would be really nice
  106. # [16:08] <ArtB> (I miss that with hg, but sigh, the price of `progress` ;-))
  107. # [16:09] <ArtB> you and darobin work on that one, please ;)
  108. # [16:09] <odinho> Well that's not a diff to hg.
  109. # [16:09] <odinho> It's a difference to how we do submissions. :-)
  110. # [16:09] <odinho> Before they were dumped in some folder, -- now they should have their own branch.
  111. # [16:10] <darobin> right
  112. # [16:10] <ArtB> (not clear to me how the resources directory works in that scenario)
  113. # [16:11] <odinho> That should be absolute anywayz
  114. # [16:11] <odinho> <script src=/resources/oh-man.js>
  115. # [16:12] <Ms2ger> Not clear how it doesn't work ;)
  116. # [16:14] <ArtB> I'm sure it's just my ignorance
  117. # [16:15] <ArtB> how do I run ServerSentEvents/dedicated-worker/eventsource-constructor-non-same-origin.htm which is reference in <https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/60/files> ?
  118. # [16:16] <ArtB> in the browser I am using to review this PR?
  119. # [16:16] <dom> I don't think you can except by setting up the tests on your machine
  120. # [16:17] <dom> it would be nice if could tag pull request to get them automatically checked out on w3c-test.org
  121. # [16:17] <dom> (assuming we don't want to check out any random pull request)
  122. # [16:19] <ArtB> yuck, so that's what I mean by (I miss that with hg …)
  123. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> dom, yep, want to set that up? :)
  124. # [16:21] <ArtB> So, I hear bitching that no one reviews tests and then we make the review process more difficult? What Were We Thinkin ;-)
  125. # [16:21] <dom> re set that up, sure, although I don't have a clear enough picture of who's doing what on this front (or more specifically, on this server) to "just do it"
  126. # [16:21] <dom> I'll investigate in any case
  127. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> Ask darobin, MikeSmith, tobie :)
  128. # [16:22] <dom> oh I know whom to harass :)
  129. # [16:23] <ArtB> thanks dom
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  131. # [16:24] <odinho> We had a short discussion on whatwg as well.
  132. # [16:25] <odinho> ArtB: For this test, I can do a checkout to server for people to use.
  133. # [16:25] <odinho> Like I did for the CORS tests because w3c-test.org hated those.
  134. # [16:25] <darobin> dom: I don't think we'd need to tag them, just to pull everything that doesn't have php in it
  135. # [16:26] <darobin> ArtB: if you want to bitch about review simplicity please run the numbers on reviews pre and post change :)
  136. # [16:26] <darobin> I'm pretty confident as to the outcome
  137. # [16:26] <darobin> and this without even taking into account the bugs we had from "submitted" files already being approved
  138. # [16:27] <darobin> dom: if you feel like "just doing it", please just do it :)
  139. # [16:28] <dom> darobin, ok, but I'll need to understand how what works on the server right now (assuming it isn't documented, otherwise where would be the fun :)
  140. # [16:29] <darobin> dom: let me paste the code in:
  141. # [16:29] <darobin> */10 * * * * cd /u/www.w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master && git pull --quiet
  142. # [16:29] <darobin> tadaaa!
  143. # [16:29] <darobin> I'm exaggerating a little bit though
  144. # [16:29] <darobin> I'm right now in the process of triggering that off email
  145. # [16:30] <darobin> if you look inside /home/github you can see the .forward and the code in ./bin for that
  146. # [16:30] <darobin> but all it does is cd && pull
  147. # [16:30] <darobin> you'll need more for pull requests...
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  149. # [16:31] <dom> let me clarify — is the email-trigger-based approach already deployed or not? if not, what is your ETA?
  150. # [16:31] <dom> (not sure it's worth doing the cron job approach is the email trigger is to be deployed RSN)
  151. # [16:32] <darobin> dom: it's triggered except that the emails aren't reaching it
  152. # [16:33] <dom> useful!
  153. # [16:33] <darobin> err it's deployed
  154. # [16:33] <darobin> hey, I deployed it 30 minutes ago, give me some time to debug!
  155. # [16:33] <dom> I'm happy to help :)
  156. # [16:33] <darobin> or, as it were, ask Brett why it's not working after quickly exhausting my ability to figure that out :)
  157. # [16:33] <darobin> dom: cool! But please make sure that Brett isn't already on it
  158. # [16:34] <darobin> maybe we should move this to sysreq
  159. # [16:34] <dom> probably :)
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  162. # [16:52] <odinho> Okay, so using emails instead of webhooks? That's a fully possible way to do it too, yes :-)
  163. # [16:52] <Ms2ger> Mm, reminds me of tinderbox
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  171. # [17:42] <dom> so, I've looked a bit in the auto-check out of submissions
  172. # [17:42] <dom> I'm not finding an easy way to have it automatic, while not checking out random content that happens to have been requested-to-pull
  173. # [17:43] <dom> I'm thus wondering if a purely manual approach (while we work out a better review workflow) wouldn't be best
  174. # [17:44] <dom> I assume that we would only want to checkout the new files that are given in a submission, not the whole repo
  175. # [17:45] <dom> [I was hoping to use issues label for selecting which pull requests to checkout, but the github API doesn't expose who has labeled a given issue, so it isn't great from a security/accountability perspective]
  176. # [17:46] <dom> the alternative would be to re-adapt the system that was used on dvcs to filter requests for PHP code
  177. # [17:46] <odinho> dom: No, doing a full checkout of the repo would be easiest.
  178. # [17:46] <odinho> dom: And cleanest. And IMHO best.
  179. # [17:46] <dom> but I'm a bit wary of adding another system in the mix
  180. # [17:47] <dom> odinho, OK; I guess as long as we don't have millions of test cases, that's probably OK
  181. # [17:47] <odinho> Well, I think it will handle millions easily.
  182. # [17:47] <odinho> (even) :-)
  183. # [17:47] <dom> who "it"?
  184. # [17:47] <odinho> The server.
  185. # [17:47] <dom> I'm not sure the disks of the server would
  186. # [17:48] <dom> but that's most likely premature optimization :)
  187. # [17:48] <odinho> ;]
  188. # [17:49] <dom> any remark on doing this through a manual process for now?
  189. # [17:50] <odinho> It will make ArtB happy for a short while. Guess that will be a small win :-)
  190. # [17:50] <dom> you're carefully avoiding to rate this on the "worthwhile" scale :)
  191. # [17:53] <odinho> ^_^ I don't think it's a bad idea to start small and easy.
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  208. # [20:16] <jgraham> How can a merge conflict affect a checkout?
  209. # [20:16] <jgraham> That doesn't make sense
  210. # [20:17] <jgraham> I also don't understand how the github API is related to security
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