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  20. # [05:02] <kochi1> MikeSmith: ping?
  21. # [05:02] <MikeSmith> hey
  22. # [05:02] <kochi1> hi!
  23. # [05:03] <MikeSmith> greetings
  24. # [05:03] <kochi1> you had a nice thanksgiving holidays :)
  25. # [05:03] <MikeSmith> yeah
  26. # [05:03] <kochi1> really?
  27. # [05:03] <kochi1> in Japan?
  28. # [05:04] <kochi1> joking aside, as we discussed in TPAC, I am considering splitting IME API draft to core and rest.
  29. # [05:04] <kochi1> so core is as minimal as possible
  30. # [05:04] <MikeSmith> that sounds like a very good idea
  31. # [05:04] <kochi1> at first to get everyone agree on
  32. # [05:04] <MikeSmith> yep
  33. # [05:05] <kochi1> So here's my current draft: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/Overview.html
  34. # [05:05] <kochi1> this is very streamlined version
  35. # [05:06] <kochi1> with some proofreading, I'd like this to be a next working draft.
  36. # [05:06] <kochi1> the rest of APIs that are dropped from this document are preserved in
  37. # [05:06] <kochi1> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/Annex.html
  38. # [05:07] <kochi1> I tentatively named the document "annex"
  39. # [05:07] <kochi1> what does it sound like?
  40. # [05:07] * MikeSmith reads
  41. # [05:07] <kochi1> thanks
  42. # [05:08] <kochi1> At the bottom of section 1. "Introduction", I added a link to the Annex document.
  43. # [05:10] <MikeSmith> ok
  44. # [05:11] <MikeSmith> so and you remind me, why is CompositionEvent not core?
  45. # [05:12] <kochi1> The added attributes are only be useful for drawing composition by Javascript, which is not the scope of core now.
  46. # [05:12] <kochi1> the core is focusing on handling UI overlap issue
  47. # [05:12] <MikeSmith> OK
  48. # [05:13] <MikeSmith> that makes sense
  49. # [05:13] <kochi1> (so I'm wondering if I should remove "cancelComposition()")
  50. # [05:13] <MikeSmith> you don't have it it in there now, do you?
  51. # [05:13] <MikeSmith> just a link to the proposal
  52. # [05:13] <kochi1> yes I have in InputMethodContext.cancelComposition()
  53. # [05:14] <kochi1> ah, "confrmComposition()"
  54. # [05:14] <kochi1> sorry, I meant "confirmComposition()", not "cancelComposition()"
  55. # [05:15] <MikeSmith> ah yeah, OK, I figured that's what you meant :)
  56. # [05:15] <kochi1> ok, I'm going to move it to annex.
  57. # [05:15] <MikeSmith> yeah
  58. # [05:15] <MikeSmith> I think that's best, given that we don't have agreement about it yet
  59. # [05:16] <MikeSmith> btw if you want to you could make the IDLs in the annex into partial interfaces instead of full ones
  60. # [05:16] <kochi1> confirmComposition() will be used in different usage scenario, other than avoiding ovarlapping UI.
  61. # [05:16] <MikeSmith> right
  62. # [05:16] <kochi1> I haven't done converting annex IDLs to partial yet.
  63. # [05:17] <kochi1> annex is basically copy of the previous draft except some added notes so far.
  64. # [05:17] <MikeSmith> OK
  65. # [05:17] <kochi1> yes, it would be cleaner to make annex IDLs partial, to see the difference.
  66. # [05:18] <MikeSmith> well, you don't need to make them partial. I think it's more editorial work so it's probably better for now just to focus on the content
  67. # [05:19] <kochi1> OK
  68. # [05:19] <kochi1> will add a note later, at least.
  69. # [05:22] <kochi1> will ping MS people, then I'll post public-webapps@ about this later this week.
  70. # [05:25] <MikeSmith> sounds great
  71. # [05:25] <MikeSmith> it's nice to see this progressing
  72. # [05:26] <kochi1> it's taking so long time... will try to progress it harder :)
  73. # [05:28] <kochi1> Thanks for the advice.
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  137. # [18:09] * jgraham wonders whether "if the location is noted for its good food" is an allowed response to "should we have a meeting before TPAC"
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  146. # [18:35] <ArtB> jgraham, ;-)
  147. # [18:36] <ArtB> what is your short list of such locations?
  148. # [18:38] <ArtB> (I'm reminded of the "whale" meat Chaals served to WebAppFormats people in Oslo several years ago.)
  149. # [18:46] <jgraham> "Not Shenzhen" :)
  150. # [18:47] <jgraham> There is lots of nice food in various parts of Europe
  151. # [18:47] <darobin> I reckon we might be able to bang together a meeting in Paris if there's interest
  152. # [18:47] <darobin> the Mozilla offices are nice
  153. # [18:48] <jgraham> So are the macarons
  154. # [18:48] <darobin> I hope you won't mind if I'm a little blasé about the local food
  155. # [18:48] <gsnedders> darobin: And all the WGs seem to be full of Mozilla people, now Mozilla has hired all the Opera people which used to full the WGs.
  156. # [18:48] <darobin> a meeting in London would be nice too, I'm always happy for a reason to go to London
  157. # [18:48] <darobin> gsnedders: yeah, that's another optimisation to think about
  158. # [18:49] <gsnedders> (Like, it got to the point where I mentioned I was leaving Opera, and got met with the instant response of, "To go to Mozilla?".)
  159. # [18:50] <jgraham> darobin: If you pick and choose your statistics very carefully, London has better food than Paris :p
  160. # [18:50] <darobin> jgraham: yes, it does, if you're rich
  161. # [18:50] <jgraham> Right :)
  162. # [18:51] <gsnedders> So, London, if jgraham pays?
  163. # [18:51] <jgraham> "if you're rich"
  164. # [18:51] <darobin> gsnedders: it doesn't have to be jgraham, it can be Mozilla :)
  165. # [18:51] <jgraham> What on earth makes you think that I would fit that category
  166. # [18:51] <gsnedders> Hey, I'm a student (and not at {St Andrews, Cambridge, Oxford}). I'm not rich.
  167. # [18:51] <darobin> actually what I like about food in London, even in the not-rich segments, is that it's a lot more varied than in Paris
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  169. # [18:59] <ArtB> yeah +1 robin
  170. # [19:00] <ArtB> when WebAppFormats met @ VF London, Marcos and some of us ate at a `middle eastern` restaurant and the food was absolutely fantastic
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  172. # [19:20] <ArtB> marcosc, re New manifest spec - ready for FPWD? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013OctDec/0588.html
  173. # [19:20] <ArtB> I didn't see any objections to publishing a FPWD
  174. # [19:20] <marcosc> ArtB: true that
  175. # [19:20] <ArtB> did I miss something or should I start the CfC for FPWD?
  176. # [19:21] <marcosc> yes, please start the CFC
  177. # [19:21] <ArtB> alrighty and you need to promise to Play Nicely re Pub Rules and the red tape ;-)
  178. # [19:21] <marcosc> then we can actually work out *where* to put the FPWD document ;)
  179. # [19:21] <marcosc> yeah, alright
  180. # [19:21] <marcosc> I'll play nice
  181. # [19:22] <ArtB> (I'm just a Messenger ...)
  182. # [19:22] * marcosc doesn't have a problem with PubRules
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  184. # [19:24] <marcosc> ArtB: I wonder is there is something in the process document that says a document has to be on /TR/?
  185. # [19:25] <marcosc> I'll have a look.
  186. # [19:26] <marcosc> if there isn't, then the FPWD can sit on GH and the live document version can also be on github
  187. # [19:26] <ArtB> marcosc, that wouldn't surprise me although quite a bit of the publication requirements are defined `out of band` at least regarding to Process-2005
  188. # [19:26] <marcosc> this might be my "out" ;)
  189. # [19:27] <marcosc> ArtB: I'll work with Robin sorting it out.
  190. # [19:28] <marcosc> But let's just at least get agreement to go to FPWD
  191. # [19:28] <marcosc> at least the lawyers will be happy
  192. # [19:29] <ArtB> and in this case, there is also other groups that are interested (SysApps, MobileIG
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  194. # [19:38] <chaals> the food is good in madrid if you look in the right places
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  196. # [19:42] <jgraham> Yes, Spain has very nice food
  197. # [19:47] <ArtB> cwilso, GitRDone re Improving Remote Meeting Participation and you'll be my hero! ;-)
  198. # [19:47] <ArtB> and prove the AB can actually do something useful ;-)
  199. # [19:52] <cwilso> ArtB that would be the goal. :)
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