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  1. # Session Start: Tue Dec 10 00:00:00 2013
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  40. # [11:57] <ArtB> marcosc - yt?
  41. # [12:04] <marcosc> ArtB: here
  42. # [12:05] <ArtB> marcosc, the CfC to publish a FPWD of Manifest had no objections
  43. # [12:05] <ArtB> although there were quite a few comments
  44. # [12:05] <ArtB> still want to proceed with the FPWD marcosc?
  45. # [12:05] <marcosc> hmmmm
  46. # [12:06] <marcosc> won't they give us grief for citing living documents?
  47. # [12:06] <ArtB> comments are fine, of course
  48. # [12:06] <ArtB> some changes will be needed
  49. # [12:06] <ArtB> to the boilerplate
  50. # [12:07] <ArtB> I'll create the FPWD if that's an issue for you
  51. # [12:07] <marcosc> this is what I currently have online: http://w3c.github.io/manifest/releases/FPWD.html
  52. # [12:07] <ArtB> s/that's an/time is an/
  53. # [12:08] <ArtB> I don't have the time to deal with that as is
  54. # [12:08] <marcosc> I'm happy to fight it
  55. # [12:09] <marcosc> you can defer it to me
  56. # [12:09] <ArtB> I'll block the TransReq then
  57. # [12:09] <marcosc> :(
  58. # [12:09] <ArtB> please use a Public list
  59. # [12:10] <marcosc> ArtB: sure, as I said before, I don't want this to be a PITA for you
  60. # [12:10] <ArtB> and please let me know which list you use
  61. # [12:11] <marcosc> public-webapps is fine
  62. # [12:11] <marcosc> I'm happy to fight for this on my own
  63. # [12:11] <ArtB> no, please don't use that for Publication Rules discussion
  64. # [12:11] * marcosc locks and loads
  65. # [12:12] <ArtB> I think public-w3process is the _right_ list to use
  66. # [12:12] <marcosc> that doesn't seem like the right place either. We should really just go through the normal steps
  67. # [12:12] <marcosc> I.e., send a publication request
  68. # [12:13] <marcosc> just say "Marcos is preparing document for publication "
  69. # [12:13] <marcosc> and point them to the link above
  70. # [12:13] <marcosc> them === w3c
  71. # [12:13] <marcosc> then I take it from there
  72. # [12:13] * marcosc will buy ArtB a bucket of popcorn
  73. # [12:13] <marcosc> and maybe some kinda raincoat... cause it's probably gonna hit the fan :)
  74. # [12:17] <ArtB> That just means the discussion will occur on a Member list
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  77. # [12:27] <marcosc> ArtB: good point...
  78. # [12:27] <marcosc> but let's cross that bridge when we get to it
  79. # [12:28] <marcosc> besides... I want to avoid a barrage of abuse from Chaals right now :)
  80. # [12:28] <marcosc> it will come... but not tonight
  81. # [12:53] <marcosc> ArtB: I toned it down a little bit... it's now the same text as the HTML spec
  82. # [12:53] <marcosc> so, at least there is precedence and no one will complain
  83. # [12:54] <marcosc> or they will have not right to complain
  84. # [12:55] <marcosc> ArtB: http://w3c.github.io/manifest/releases/FPWD.html
  85. # [12:55] <marcosc> give it a shift-refresh
  86. # [12:59] <ArtB> why can't you use the same text in TR/html5/
  87. # [12:59] <ArtB> [[
  88. # [12:59] <ArtB> This is a work in progress!
  89. # [12:59] <ArtB> For the latest updates from the HTML WG, possibly including important bug fixes, please look at the http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/ instead.
  90. # [12:59] <ArtB> ]]
  91. # [13:00] <ArtB> f.ex. I don't think the "only use" clause is accurate
  92. # [13:00] <ArtB> in that review f.ex. the technical comment is a use case
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  94. # [13:08] <marcosc> ArtB: I can do that... but it's a bit of a cop out. It's not the intended purpose of the document.
  95. # [13:09] <marcosc> but I can drop "only"
  96. # [13:11] <ArtB> s/IPR//
  97. # [13:13] <marcosc> ArtB: argh... ok, but no way am I changing the citations
  98. # [13:13] <marcosc> shift refresh
  99. # [13:14] <ArtB> when you say citations, do you mean references?
  100. # [13:14] <marcosc> oh wait.. pushed wrong branch
  101. # [13:14] <marcosc> ArtB: yes, the refs
  102. # [13:15] <ArtB> My recollection is that if W3C has a spec that is also being specified by some other org, the W3C version must be used as the reference
  103. # [13:16] <ArtB> (please don't Kill the Messenger; again, public-w3process is the place to discuss TR Publication Rules)
  104. # [13:17] <marcosc> ArtB: sure
  105. # [13:18] <marcosc> ArtB: ok... http://w3c.github.io/manifest/releases/FPWD.html?dsaf
  106. # [13:31] <ArtB> marcosc, TransReq sent
  107. # [13:32] <ArtB> cc'ed you
  108. # [13:32] <marcosc> thanks ArtB
  109. # [13:32] <ArtB> assuming PLH approves the TransReq, the next step will be a request to publish the doc
  110. # [13:35] <ArtB> you might want to start working on a Pub Rules compliant version http://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/SpecEditing#TR_Publication_Process_and_WebApps
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  115. # [14:30] <ArtB> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/maillist.html#10467 -> speaking of process, standards and politics ...
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