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  75. # [16:16] <darobin> ArtB: stupid question... when you were looking at the getting RF commitment from Piotrek, is there any reason why simply making him an IE was not an option?
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  77. # [16:18] <ArtB> darobin, I think that still requires some type of patent commitment.
  78. # [16:19] <ArtB> I'm all for taking the `path of least resistance` here, so what the Team thinks is sufficient would WFM
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  80. # [16:20] <darobin> ArtB: IIRC the IE agreement has RF commitment built-in; otherwise I'm missing something
  81. # [16:20] <darobin> I'll check with the team and report back
  82. # [16:22] <Yves> well, his company might own patent he's not aware of
  83. # [16:23] <darobin> Yves: I know it's not the same level of commitment, but I believe that for regular contributions it is usually enough
  84. # [16:24] <darobin> (and we can assess the risk of that company owning a patent)
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  135. # [20:06] <cabanier> anyone here who can answer a webidl question?
  136. # [20:08] <chaals> possibly (though it probably isn't me) - what is the question?
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  153. # [21:20] <cabanier> previously canvas had the following method: void stroke();
  154. # [21:21] <cabanier> but we recently added: void stroke(Path2D)
  155. # [21:21] <cabanier> now, this broke some websites that were passing an argument by accident.
  156. # [21:21] <cabanier> it seems that this should still work...
  157. # [21:23] <jgraham> It would throw TypeError
  158. # [21:23] <jgraham> Whereas before it wouldn't I think
  159. # [21:26] <cabanier> yes
  160. # [21:26] <cabanier> that's what it's doing today
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  162. # [21:28] <cabanier> jgraham: it still satisfies the old API
  163. # [21:30] <jgraham> cabanier: I don't understand what you mean. The old and new apis are compatible if used as intended. But passing in arguments that don't work is a problem
  164. # [21:30] <cabanier> jgraham: yes
  165. # [21:30] <jgraham> But you can't fix this, in general
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  167. # [21:30] <cabanier> jgraham: why not?
  168. # [21:31] <jgraham> If people were doing stoke("foo") and we changed the API to stroke(DOMString), it would do something unexpected, but not throw
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  170. # [21:31] <jgraham> All you could do is throw with too many arguments, but there are good forward-compat arguments to not do that as well
  171. # [21:32] <cabanier> yes
  172. # [21:33] <cabanier> jgraham: maybe we shouldn't add optional arguments to existing methods.
  173. # [21:33] <jgraham> Yeah, that's one way to avoid the problem
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  175. # [21:33] <jgraham> If you think that's needed here, I suggest the WHATWG list
  176. # [21:33] <cabanier> jgraham: ok. I will keep that in mind
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  213. # [23:35] <Hixie> someone could also just be adding custom methods to objects that we want to extend
  214. # [23:35] <Hixie> or checking for their presence and breaking if it's not what they expect
  215. # [23:35] <Hixie> at the end of the day, any change to the api that is in any way useful carries a compat risk
  216. # [23:36] <Hixie> this applies even outside script; for example, that's one of the reasons we have conformance criteria for HTML
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